Strategic Air Command (SAC) Group Build II

Modeling Subjects Group Builds
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The Strategic Air Command will be prepared to conduct long-range offensive operations in any part of the world, either independently or in co-operation with land and naval forces; to conduct maximum-range reconnaissance over land or sea, either independently or in co-operation with land and naval forces; to provide combat units capable of intense and sustained combat operations employing the latest and most advanced weapons; to train units and personnel of the maintenance of the Strategic Forces in all parts of the world; to perform such special missions as the Commanding General Army Air forces may direct. -Gen. Carl Spaatz

Gentlemen… Welcome to the Strategic Air Command GB II! We are back by popular demand!

This Build will begin on March 1st, 2009 and finish on December 31st, 2009 (although the deadline may be extended if needed). I know there’s alot going on with the holidays, so this should give plenty of prep time to recover and clear off the benches.

Aircraft built must have been used by SAC and preferrably wearing the SAC shield and sash.

Aftermarket accessories and scratchbuilding is always allowed

Crossovers are permitted

Post your progress and share ideas-and take lots of pictures![:D]

And as always, HAVE FUN!!![8-]

Here’s a list of Aircraft used by SAC, but it’s not inclusive (Hope I’m not forgetting anything):

Aircraft - primary mission

Aircraft - support

Missiles fielded by the Strategic Air Command

Experimental/Prototype Aircraft for SAC also eligible:

YB-35

YB-49

YB-60

XB-70

Below are 2 versions of the GB Badge and each are available for you to post. Please save the badge of your choice to your own photosharing website (it’ll save me the bandwith)[:I]

Duty Roster:

DesertRat 1/72 Hasegawa B-47E

Warhammer 1/72 Monogram RB-36H

Yardbird78 1/72 Hasegawa SR-71A

Wirraway 1/72 Revell/Monogram B-52

Pavlvs 1/48 FB-111 Aardvark

Viper_MP 1/72 C-135 Varient or 1/48 F-111

Urich 1/72 Academy B-50

Bondoman F-82

Dirkpitt 289 1/72 B-36 or SR-71

Feld MarSchall Model 1/72 Monogram RB-36H

DMK 1/48 Academy FB-111A & 1/48 Monogram B-58

Bish 1/72 Italeri SR-71

PhantomPhreak 1/72 KC-135A

Wynder B-47 Stratojet and/or EC-135E

BUFFbuff 1/72 KC-135A & 1/72 KC-97L

Hawkeye Hobbies EC-135 (Callsign"Greyson")

Mattsix RoG 1/48 F-86D

I apologize If I forgot anyone. Check the listing and let me know if there are any updates and I’ll post em!

Again, Welcome! And I’m looking forward to the build with you guys![8D]

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Roger, put me down for the Revell/Monogram 1/72 BUFF

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Please excuse me for being dense, but this is my first GB.

We can’t actually start the kits until March 1st, right?

And do we use the badges during, to show participation in the GB, or is it for an award after completion?

Thanks. [:)]

Now I need to go rent Strategic Air Command with Jimmy Stewart… again…

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Done![8D]

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No sweat, Dave! It’s pretty simple. The build (and production) begins in march. I’d set it for then to give others a chance to do research, acquire kits/aftermarket products, clear the bench of other GBs and just get through the holidays.

As far as the badges, that depends on the individual GB. Some will prefer them as awards for completion, and others are given to show participation and affiliation. This one is for participation. You’d normally post it under your signature line (kinda like inserting pictures in a post). So by all means grab it and post it[8D]

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Cool! Thanks DR. I love the badges.

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You betcha! Thanks[8D]

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I will be building the 1/72 Monogram RB-36H for sure with possibly more later.

Awesome job with the badges DesertRat! Yardbird has some really good info for us over on the interest post. I will post over there saying the official GB thread is up.

Just a thought, should we include bombers that would have been destined for SAC, such as the YB-35, YB-49, YB-60, and the XB-70? I am leaning torwards no because they never say active sevice, but it is your call.

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Thanks! I thought the badges were workable. I’m glad ya approve![8D]

And yes- I’d planned on including the X-planes and prototypes as well! I’d just forgot to list them down…[:I]

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Cool! I was thinking of picking up a XB-70 but they are so expensive right now. But any ways, my RB-36H is supposed to be back in stock soon so I will be getting that. Can’t wait. Always wanted to build that giant!

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WarHammer25- My B-50 will be completed in jan. Due to my work schedule when I’m home Sorry I might be able to finish something small during the summer time frame My next leave home. Urich

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I like the sound of this one for my first none WW2 and none German GB. Can you put me down for the Italeri 1/72 SR-71 please.

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urich,

Hate to see you leave this GB. There is always a place for you here if you want.

If anyone is interested, there are some really good deals on Ebay (aka Evilbay) on the Italeri reissue of the XB-70. I am currently contemplating weither to get one or not. Also watching some other kits on there to start my 1/72 SAC collection.

DesertRat, just some food for thought on X Planes, how about the XB-46, XB-48, and XB-51? (I was just browsing Anigrand’s site) Doubt if anyone would join with those kits but they would have made it to SAC most likely.

I also have two questions (ahemm, Yardbird or anyone else)

  1. The B-52s that were involved in the bombings of Indochina during the Vietnam War were part of SAC. Is this correct? I am guessing so because who else would command them.
  2. I read today that the AC-130s and AC-119s were part of SAC. I would have thought they were part of TAC. So, were they under SAC or TAC control?
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That doesn’t sound right. ACs aren’t strategic weapons, nor are they nuclear capable.

The Buffs were definately SAC aircraft with SAC crews. They just re-painted and re-tasked them.

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WH- I was in the 919th SOW (AC130A) from 1982 to 2004 this was as Airforce reserve unit stationed at Eglin AFB Fld 3 when I started in the unit we were TAC in the mid to late 80’s I don’t remember when we went to MAC Then in the early 90’s we switched to SOC Them we retired our gunships and got MC-130E’s and P’s I never heard gunships in SAC.

Also I will post pic’s of the B-50 when done maybe. My work is not on the scale of what I’ve seen posted here But I have several a/c on the list I might be able to do this summer

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Done! Welcome aboard! Always love to see the SR-71 being built![8D]

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That is what I thought about the ACs. It makes no sense what so ever that a gunship would serve with SAC.

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All BUFFs in the South East Asia war were SAC aircraft flown by SAC crews, mostly out of Andersen AFB, Guam; quite a few from U-Tapao RTAFB in Thailand and a very small number from Kadena Air Base in Okinawa. They used F models in NMF with white bellies in the very beginning, then painted the bottoms black and left the rest NMF. The D model was introduced into the conflict and had the special SAC camouflage right from the start. It looks very similar to standard USAF SEA colors, but is slightly different. They used some G models late in the war with SIOP camo on the top and white bottoms. The B, C, E and H were never used in SEA.

I would have to agree that the gunships were flown by Spec Ops which was part of TAC at that time.

Darwin, O.F. [alien]

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The aircraft of Strategic Air Command

I said in a previous post that the F-101 and C-124 were not used by SAC, but that is an error. They were both used by SAC, the F-101 for a short while and the C-124 for a few years.

B-17 Flying Fortress by Boeing

B-25 Mitchell by North American

B-26 Invader by Douglas

B-29 Superfortress by Boeing

KB-29

B-36A/B/D/F/J/H Peacemaker by Convair

RB-36D/H

RB-45C Tornado by North American, (B-45 used as crew trainers), 91st SRW

B-47B/E Stratojet by Boeing

RB-47E

B-50 by Boeing

KB-50

B-52B/C/D/E/F/G/H Stratofortress by Boeing

RB-52B

RB-57D by Martin, short wing

RB-57F by Martin, long wing with TF-33 engines and J-60 aux jets

B-58A Hustler, by Convair

TB-58A trainer

FB-111A, by General Dynamics, 380 BW, Plattsburg AFB, 509 BW, Peese AFB

B-1B Lancer by North American/Rockwell

B-2A Spirit by North American/Rockwell

F-51D/H Mustang by North American

F-82 Twin Mustang, 27th Fighter Escort Group, Bergstrom AFB, TX

F-80 Shooting Star by Lockheed, 4th FG, Andrews AFB, 56 FG, Selfridge AFB

F-84E/G Thunderjet, straight wing, by Republic, 12th Fighter Escort Wing

F-84F Thunderstreak, six strategic fighter wings in 1955-57 (each with 75 a/c)

RF-84F Thunderflash, 71st SRW, Larson AFB, WA, Jan 55-July 57, two squadrons

RF-84K Thunderflash, 71st SRW, Larson AFB,WA, one squadron

F-86A Sabrejet by North American, 1st Fighter Group, March AFB, 49-50

F-86D Sabre Dog, Torrejon & Zaragoza AB, Spain, 58-60

F-101 Voodoo, by McDonnell, 27th SFW, Bergstrom AFB, TX , May & June 1957

UH-1B/D Huey by Bell

UH-19 Chikasaw by Sikorsky

HH-43B/F by Kaman

SA-16/HU-16 Albatross tri-phibian, by Grumman

U-2 Dragon Lady by Lockheed, small versions

U-2R/TR-1 Dragon Lady large versions

U-3A/B Blue Canoe by Cessna (model 310)

U-4 Aero Commander by Rockwell

U-6 Beaver by De Havilland

SR-71A/B Blackbird, by Lockheed, 9 SRW, Beale AFB, CA

DC-130A/E Hercules by Lockheed, drone carrier

BQM-34 Firebee drone by Ryan

T-29B/D Flying Classroom by Convair

T-33 Shooting Star by Lockheed

T-37 Tweet by Cessna

T-38 Talon by Northrop

T-39 Sabreliner by North American

E-4A/B

C-47 Dakota/Gooney Bird by Douglas

C-45H Expediter, by Beech

C-54 Skymaster, by Douglas, 1st Air Transport Unit, Roswell Field, New Mexico

C-82 Packet by Fairchild

KC-97A/F/G by Boeing

VC-97 by Boeing

C-119 Flying Boxcar by Fairchild

C-123J Provider

C-124 Globemaster II, by Douglas, 2nd Air Transport Unit, (3 Squadrons)

KC,-135A/E/R Stratotanker by Boeing

RC, EC-135 by Boeing

KC-10 Extender by McDonnell Douglas

SM-62 Snark, by Northrop, ICBM cruise missile

SM-75/PGM-17 Thor, IRBM, by Douglas

SM-78/PGM-19 Jupiter, IRBM, by Chrysler Corporation

SM-65 Atlas D, ICBM, by Convair, horizontal, above ground silo

SM-65 Atlas E, ICBM by Convair, horizontal ground level silo

HGM-16 Atlas F, ICBM, by Convair, vertical, below ground silo

HGM-25A, Titan I, ICBM by Martin

SM-68B/LGM-25C Titan II ICBM by Martin

LGM-30 Minuteman I, ICBM

LGM-30F Minuteman II, ICBM

LGM-30G Minuteman III, ICBM

LGM-118A, Peacekeeper, ICBM

AGM-69A, SRAM, Short Range Attack Missile

AGM-86A/B, ALCM, Air Launched Cruise Missile

GAM-72/ADM-20 Quail, decoy missile

GAM-77/AGM-28 Hound Dog missile

D-21 Tagboard drone by Lockheed

Those that might have been

XB-35 Flying wing by Northrop, 4 R-4360 piston engines

XB-49 Flying wing by Northrop, 8 jets, (later 6)

XB-60 by Convair, 8 jets, swept wing version of B-36

XB-70 Valkyrie, by North American

XF-85 Goblin, parasite fighter

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Now there’s a much more comprehensive list than I was able to find! Thank you, Sir![8D]