I can’t tell you guys how much I’ve enjoyed this conversation between you. I’m not the smartest guy in the world but I did read a book once (I was hinding in a prostitutes closet and had nothing better to do) but I would like to point out that you forgot the “Space/Time Continuum”.
I’ve never seen a book in a prostitute’s closet! [:P] Boy do I feel gyped!
I think it was holding the shelf up.
For information pertaining to the space / time continuum, please consult Steven Hawkins masterpiece of confusion, A Brief History of Time. Great stuff.
Yikes! This is nuts!
Here’s a thought: time IS effected by scale, if you want the miniature action to match the full scale action in terms of physics. That’s why in miniature special effects photography you overcrank the camera when filming, in effect slowing time when projected at normal speed. For example, a real car plunging 100 meters off a real cliff would take, let’s say 6 or 7 seconds to hit the ground (anybody know the acceleration/maximum velocity formula?). A 1/100 scale miniature car falling 1 meter from a 1/100 cliff would take less than a second to hit the ground, because in the real world all physical objects obey the same laws.
But to make that little 1/100 car appear to observe a 1/100 scale world’s laws of physics, we’d have to slow it down to a 6 or 7 second fall to match the full-scale laws.
I reckon sound would be the same. Full-scale sound travels at what, 714 miles an hour at sea level? So what is that in a 1/72 scale world? 10 miles an hour? So for a 1/72 scale F-14 to visually appear to be traveling at the speed of sound, it would only need to go 10 miles an hour!
This is nutty, but fun!
Hi all, [:I]
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Kugai, thanks for the real picture on scale weight - the 200kg 1:72 Tomcat did seem a bit strange - anti-matter detail sets anyone ? ( postage could be costly ! )
the correct maths is a level up ( or ten ) from mine but sounds a good to me… -
Mer, averything made sense when i typed it [:D]
To be honest my ‘ACME’ maths book said divide averything ( ! ) by 72 and impress your friends… well i’m impressed by the way we all sound so convincing till someone else sounds just as convincing, i like the 2001 thing too,
- apologies for anyone getting a headache when following this topic (or was that just me) … duoo
J-Hulk,
Ask and ye shall receive. For all of you math geeks out there, this is all you need to know about Terminal Velocity. Or, at least the “Cliff Notes” version.
http://www.maths.abdn.ac.uk/courses/eg1527/site/pdf/exercs/ex2_withans.pdf
demono69
J-Hulk, TIME CANT BE SCALED. The model will land at the same time as the full size car, however you are dropping them from different heights so I would land at different times. 
Air resistence is negligible, just do the 32ft/sec/sq for objects falling, regardless of the scale size of the object
I was wondering how long it would take! The key words are “to visually appear”.
jhulk - your example is how i looked at scale speed and agree that something 72 times smaller will (appear to) travel 72 slower, but i guess speed is distance over time and the problem as muzzleflash says is with time rather than distance, - a scale day would be to short to make any models so we’d get a bit stuck , i think thats what it boiled down to !
the topic was due to the accuracy seen in scale modeling and i wondered how far we could get with scale stats / enviroment ect beyond the kit itself - (only as far as the laws of science will allow i guess) certainly worth a look tho…[;)]
’ If you think lateraly remember to look forward’
You guys are giving me a headache!!!
Yup, muzzleflash, in our full-scale world, what you said about the cars landing at the same time (if dropped from the same height) obviously is true. As I said, that’s physics in our real world.
But as Claymore68 noticed, for a scale model “to visually appear” to be obeying it’s “scale” laws of physics, we have to slow down our full-scale time to correspond to “scale” time, or that 1/100 car will look like a toy plopping off the couch if you observe it in “real scale.” Which of course, is what it is.
So, it’s all relative! And visual!
In that case, is it relevant to even consider scale weight? It sure is interesting!
[:p]
What if…C-A-T really spelled dog? [:D]
Jerry
I think this conversation has almost reached the point of rediscovering the Improbability Drive. All we need now is a fresh steaming cup of tea, and maybe a box of Krispy Kreams.
Wow. That’s deep, Ogre. Dog.
I make one little statement and see what happens?[:p]
Anyone out there want to dispute the validity of Chaos Theory ( which has exemplified been so well here )? Now you know why I chose my “signature quote.”
I couldn’t even find my way back to “normal” with the Hubble!
Don’t know about that one. I used to go out with a girl who insisted on watching the daily soaps. I swear the space-time continuum was against me on that one.
Personally, I think that Chaos Theory and Fuzzy Logic found each other in the Garden of Eden and procreated this whole evolutionary thing called Life. The question in my mind now is: which is Adam, and which is Eve?
LMAO!!! [:D][:D][:D]
I love those movies!!
Ray
all i did was finish work at 6 am this morning put on the computer and read this thread …NOW ME GOT BIG HEADACHE.LoL…BTW that scaled car has to have scale weight and ballance to fall like the real car, which don’t worry me much as long as i ain’t at the bottom of the cliff!!!. plus do Kenf**ky Tied chicken have that rooster booster on the menu ? also how can the last five minutes at work last half an hour cos it sure feels like it can to me, LoL
why be normal???
what is normal??
if i am what is normal would you want to be?
now my brain really hurts…see y’all…Greg