Revell 1/48 F4- Phantom II cockpit decals

hey all
my next kit is, mainly coz ita a cheapie i picked up off ebay, and i need practice with my ab, so its perfect practice. plus i dont mind modelling military stuff :slight_smile:
my problem has surfaced even b4 starting the kit!
ok, to make the cockpit instrument panel, the inst. says to take a decal and stick it behind a clear part, same shape as decal, then paint black on the clear where ist sposed to be black. the problem is the decals are completely black, with no dials or anyting on them. has anyone built this kit and had this problem?
and would anyone know where i could get goood refrences for a f4 cockpit, so maybe i could print my own decals?
thanks in advance!!

I’m not familiar with the kit you are talking about, but if they are like the 1/32 Tamiya F-4 instrument panel decals, the instruments are “face down” on the decal paper. The Tamiya panel decals look like black rectangles on the decal sheet, too. If you apply the decals to the back of the panel per the instructions, then flip the panel over, you’ll see instruments.

HTH.

Ben

Tominator, the kit that you refer to is the OLD Revell offering from the mid to late seventies. Revell put out a few kits that were supposed to offer the decal backing behind the clear part to simulate a 3D effect. The only problem was that these were not true replicas of the actual instrument panels. If memory serves me, you are supposed to put the decal on the back and paint the clear panel so only the dials show. I built the old F-15A (not the Monogram mold) in the 8th or 9th grade and didn’t do a good job at it.

E

I have, or had, one of these old kits…
The decal isn’t black, just the very top print of it is. When you put it on the clear instrument panel, the dials show up. But, as has been said, this is a poor replica of the panel. My suggestion is to get a thin clear sheet of plastic, put the decal on that, paint the kit’s panel grey, then cut out the instruments on the thin sheet and position them on the kit panel.

Hope this helps!

cheers ppl… i kinda though that they may be rveerse decals, but wasnt sure coz the decals for the side instruments are normal…
i was thinking of scratch builiding someting else, coz the stock way would look poor… in the inst, theres a nice outline on the clear plastic part, for where to paint the black, but on the actual part, theres only a sink mark!..
i think i will do something like EC-130CrewChief suggested, it doesdnt sound to hard and i think the results would look good (better than stock neway!)i have a large hole punch set (its like a big fat nail that has a hollow point and u hammer it thru what u want cut) hopefully, theres one small enuf to do this…
is there anyway i could get the dcal off the back so that i could scan the dials in2 my comp? or would putting it on the clear sheet be my only option?
also, anyone know where i could get some good ref pics of this particular plane??

thanks all!!!