Renewal Thread at Armorama

Since the initial pilot ish of FSM, the rag has been a part of my modeling life. At first it was because I really needed it, as I was a beginner. (Everyone is a beginner at some point, which is something many folks seem to forget, including myself sometimes…) Up until last year I never failed to grab any ish of FSM, but it became more of a tradition than anything. I no longer grab FSM without fail. Matter of fact, I haven’t bought an ish in over a year. Why? It is quite a visually appealing magazine and, for the most part, it’s laid out well but the content has become rather boring for me.

There have been a few interesting advanced-modeling pieces here and there, but FSM is still primarily a rag for the casual, average-Joe model builder as well as the intermediate builder. I passed those phases in the hobby long ago but only fairly recently did I realize that there was little for me to learn from the rag. Anyone who is good at what they do never stops learning, but often times you find little to learn unless you ‘go elswhere’. And there are plenty of modeling rags out there. So I went elsewhere.

I remember when Scale Modeler was the big thing. The same type of discussions as those which take place about FSM today also took place in the past about Scale Modeler. That rag has disappeared because, quite plainly, it became a rather poor product and the FSM of the time helped force the issue because it was ‘that much better’ than Scale Modeler. The FSM of today is not a poor product, it is rather good. But to some, like myself, it just doesn’t fit the bill any longer. It’s not a bad thing, it’s just a natural thing.

So I don’t think that the number of folks who are expressing dissatisfaction with FSM is a sign of anything ominous. Again, 'tis nothing new, really. People have been complaining about this stuff for ages, but now and again this happens en masse and that’s the start of a ‘buzz’. It’s simply FSM’s turn… again.

This ‘cloud’ has rained on FSM’s parade before and it will probably continue to do so. Not because it’s a bad rag; it’s not. But rather because some folks (some, not all) are past it, and instead of looking for something different to satisfy their wants and needs, they naturally look for something that is wrong with the current ‘fix’. After all, the magazine has been great all these years… why is it so lackluster now?

They ask themselves: Has it changed? In some ways, yes. Does the magazine need a change? Maybe. Will it change? Probably.

But the issue here, for some, is not the magazine; it is the individual. And the folks who ask the above questions may not have asked what, in many cases, is the most pertinent question: Have I changed? Each individual has to decide for themselves what their motivations, needs and ‘carrots’ are in this hobby. FSM is no longer a ‘carrot’ for me; indeed, it is no longer even desirable for me. But that’s just me.

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I wanted to respond to the issues with Armorama and relate my experiences there. When I first started modeling and had simple questions I would post them on a few different sites. It turned out I always got help at Armorama when the questions would often go unanswered other places. That is why I have stayed there. To be fair this board wasn’t functioning at the time.

The other reason is it is constructive. People don’t take time out of there day just to put down other people for there opinions or call them things like whiners. I guess we do all have our own interests.

For the record I enjoy FSM and just renewed my subscription. I find myself going to other magazines more often for modeling techniques and ideas, but enjoy reading it. I would like a little more depth to it no matter what the topic is (aircraft, armor, etc.) but always look forward to looking it over when it comes in the mail

Even I do not read all the forums on Armorama (and I moderate 3 forums–Sci-Fi, Buy/Sell, Armor). I’ve also learned which posters to avoid reading/responding to (unless I have to perform moderator duties).

I’ve used the analogy that Armorama is like a favorite sports bar. Just because I enjoy going there to watch the game with my friends doesn’t mean I want to have a drink with everyone else who also goes there.

As far as “level” goes, I do notice a difference in levels of expertise. Not in the area of modeling though, but in “net savvy”. Armor modelers who frequent Track-Link, Missing-Links, Armorama, et al, tend to be more net savvy on the whole than the majority of FSM posters. Not a bad thing, I think of FSM as an entry level model forum where modelers new to the world of forums are first introduced to them via the actual magazine.

Ask the old users of most online forums about RMS and they know what you’re talking about. The vast majority of FSM users have probably never heard of it. (Note: RMS is rec.models.scale, a USENET modeling newsgroup and the granddaddy of modeling forums).

I have subscribed to FSM since around 1996-97. I have a subscription renewal due in March but since I’m moving tomorrow I figured I’d hold off renewing until I get a new address next week. I do plan on renewing.

Like alot of people have said, I used to get FSM all the time, but that was when I was getting back into the hobby. I always found their articles on equipment (like airbrushes and paints) to be very helpful. In fact, I was able to make a far more informed consumer choice when I bought my airbrush and compressor thanks to FSM. However, that was some time ago, and I haven’t found any articles that have challenged me as a modeler for some time.

This is especially fustrating for me as I am primarily a figure painter and sculptor, and have redirected my magazine budget towards more figure oriented magazines like Military Modeler or Figure International. But, ever since FSM published a picture of one of my figures in the Jan. 2005 issues reader gallery, I’d have to say that FSM is a fine publication and worthy of all our patronage. :slight_smile:

I began w/FSM back in the early 90s, I think. It was part of my renewed interest in modelling which had lain dormant since before college. I think my last issue was about six years ago. It was a great source of information and inspiration. Since then, my tastes have changed and now I’m a severely addicted WW2 armor builder. I subscribe to several AFV “biggies” (MMIR, MilMod, AFV Modeller) and will get TMMI, SteelMaster, Armour Modelling when something catches my eye. I’m a regular reader and contributor at several AFV modelling websites (Missing Lynx, Track Link, Armorama, Hyperscale, WW2Modelmaker and FSM’s armor page).

I’d say my overall experience mirrors Blackwolf or my friend Rob Grovinius. I’ve changed and FSM’s mission to be a general scale modelling magazine just no longer fits my interests. I wish them continued great success and my hope is that many many people can happily say that were assisted and inspired by their product like I was.

Not being a subscriber to ANY form of modeling magazine, since NONE cover what I am interested in. I tend to browse through the mags at the bookstore and by the issues I think worthwhile.

I enjoy the FSM forum because it gives me a chance to stay in touch with fellow minded people on a few of the subjects that I am interested in, there are no forums for the others that I am aware of.

Said that I don’t specialise on any specific subject or genre and thus the dedicated forums are too boring for me.

Just my thoughts.

I used to subscribe to the magazine and sometimes do buy issues but not as frequently as I have in the past. I started seeing the same tips and techniques from year to year but with different authors and titles. Now I buy MMIR, Military Modeler, TMMI and AFV Modeler. If I am looking for reviews I go online to a few different websites.

Perhaps my choice of the words “whine” and “whining” (didn’t actually CALL anyone a “whiner!”[;)]) was a bit insensitive, Drewgimpy. I have since edited my post and changed those words to the more neutral (and yet totally accurate) “complain” and “complaining.” I have since come to realize that “whine” tends to be a fairly inflammatory term on the Internet these days.

It was not my intention to put down anyone’s opinions, nor do I take the time out of my days (or nights) “just” to call people names…but to me, there is absolutely no constructive point to that entire thread. That’s my opinion, and I tried to express it constructively in my previous post here and in my recent response in the thread itself over at Armorama.

I like Armorama, and enjoy reading it everyday and posting when I feel I have something to offer. Actually, I’ve been a member over there longer than I have been a member here at FSM. Lots of nice folks over there. And here. And at all the other forums I participate in.

Read what you like, post where you like, build what you like, live how you like.
Life is simple, really! [:D]

Yes, FSM is a general magazine, but that’s OK – I like to think I can learn from any modeling, not just the areas I favor. FSM gives one exposure to all the modeling areas.

Yes, every few years, we get the “How to Airbrush” (or whatever) article. That’s cool – yes I’ve seen it several times but for somebody new to modeling, this may be their first time. And for me, there may be something new.

My “complaint” is that by trying to be all things to all people, it is too shallow. Articles are 3-4 pages long, a half-dozen good pix, but maybe less than 3/4 page of text. Most times I feel like “Here’s how to build it” … a startup section … then magic happens … and we have a completed model – and little idea of how.

FSM will always have a high subscription, it is about the only US 'zine. The UK 'zines are way-way-way better in terms of information, but way-way-way more expensive. I suspect more than one or two are simply out of budget for most US folks (don’t mean to exclude other parts of world, I just don’t know cost data).

I’ll be honest and admit I haven’t read through this thread in-depth, been browsing the forums on one computer while babysitting a very long drawn out install on another. [:I]

I can tell you the editorial staff does read through the feedback they receive. If you feel strongly about a certain subject, don’t hesitate to post your opinion. Fill out those surveys, polls, etc. Make sure you’re voice continues to be heard.

As for Armorama, I would encourage modelers to take advantage of what the site has to offer. There is a lot of excellent material over there, as well as a good community.

An advantage of the Internet is it provides people who share similar interests an easy way to come together and exchange thoughts and ideas. So put aside any differences, stereotypes and preconceived notions you may have and get involved in some of different modeling communities out there. Keep an open mind, don’t be afraid to ask questions, offer answers if you know them, offer advice when you can, and provide encouragement when others need it. Not only will the modeling community benefit, but I believe that you will find your hobby much more satisfying.

Ah…the Zen Art of Babbling. [:I][:)]