ok then i agree i got worked up a bit this post was created so we can share cool pics of this plane not debate it
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Best check yer fire, kiddo… The P-51 WAS used in the MTO, under the guise of the A-36 Apache, kid…
You are correct, the A-36 arrived in North Africa in April 1943, and the Afrika Corps surrendered in May 1943. Just goes to show how scary the P-51 is. [:D]
Warned ya…[;)] The P-51A/A-36/Mustang MkI and IA was in combat with the same Allison engine the P-40 had, initially, as did the P-39, and P-38, Herr Baron…
Little trivia… Initially, the A-36 had no official nickname… The pilots took to calling it “Invader” until the AAF decided on “Apache”…
Hmmm… Wonder how the Merlin-engined Warhawk would fare against an Allison-engined Mustang at say, 10,000 feet ASL down to the deck…
Almost forgotten?
I think not… one of the most known fighter groups of any campain… Flying Tigers
The P-40 will always be well known and respected
I’ve read that in the CBI many pilots were reluctant to leave their P-40s for the P-51. Probably a case of leaving a well known proven aircraft for something new, but does point out that those pilots did not feel they were flying an inferior aircraft in desperate need of replacement.
Well I have a different view than yours.
The Flying Tigers are well celebrated and looked upon with great admiration. The P-40 is well known and respected.
I think your impression is slightly skewed… The P-40 is in no way “forgotten” as it is probably one of the most famous WWII fighters due to the flying Tigers. Underappreciated would be a far better term…
Now, since Matt or Aaron will swoop down with the lock if we don’t get some models in here QUICK… I ust started a P-40 “kittyhawk” today. 1/48 Hase kit. (brit desert version) And might I say it’s about 1,000,000 times better than the revell-o-gram? It’s amazing how far kits have come… wow. I’ll get some pics up, but I did have a question: In that big radiator scoop under the nose, is the interior the, “interior green” color? I have pics from 2 real birds at an airshow, and 1 is green, the other Black. ??? And clarification on that?
personally i go for a dark grey colur but its up to you
Oh, now why did you have to go there?
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Ohhhhh… I have been skewered. I will now take 17 hours to reevaluate my life. 
Forgot you were posting in this thread… I will say though, I am a fan of revell-o-grams when it comes to jets, or for a quick fun build.
Dark grey? never seen pics of that color in the radiator…
Theyre not teaching history like they used to in school. Another thing comes to mind...My grandfather used to say...children should be seen, not heard...I told him I didnt agree…came to an hour later…lol.
ah… the P-40… very nice bird… and now for something completely differant…[View:/themes/fsm/utility/
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The P-40N we fly in the CAF is Green ZC inside there… I don’t remember if it was Tex (BG David Lee Hill) that finally decided for us on the CAF APM Board (Authenticity, Paint, and Markings) or not, but we were stopped dead on that issue until he made the call, lol… It was after all, “His” P-40 we were doing (although it’s not an AVG bird, it’s an N-model)…
'Course, here’s the best of both worlds, Red…
Then-Captain David Lee “Tex” Hill mounting his P-51B, shortly after the group started transistioning to the Pony… (Still wearing the Flying Tigers blood chit on his jacket, and you can see a 75th FS P-40E in the background.) !(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/Aircraft Profiles/TexHillP-51B.jpg?t=1299594336)
Tex Hill was one of the guys what flew the P-40B and E models up against the Japanese, back during a time where a simple box of .50 cal firing solenoids grounded the Hell’s Angels Squadron (3rd Sqn, AVG). He transitioned form the P-40 to the Mustang, and is believed to be the first Mustang pilot to shoot down a Zeke… He was also one of only five former AVG pilots that stayed on after the USAAF swallowed up the Tigers into the 23 FG in July of '42… Tex passed away in '07 at the age of 92 and is still sorely missed at Staff Call.
I dunno how that guy got in a Mustang, he was 6’ 6" if he was an inch, lol… I’m 6’1" and have a helluva time fitting in a Mustang… 'Course, the B/C model’s a bit roomier than the D/K is… I’ve only done a 'pit check-out and run-up in the D…
The last aircraft the 23 FG (Now known as the 23rd Wing flew was the A-10, tail-code “FT” (Flying Tigers), and last I knew they were based at Moody AFB…
Sorry I got so long-winded fellers… Reckon it’s because Tex was a friend, and someone had earlier mentioned Mustangs and 'Hawks in the same breath , lol…
Hans-
Any of the Tigers still with us?
That’s really cool info, hammer. I’d love to be around these old warbirds!
p38: what is the story behind that P40 with the Japanese meatballs on it?
and here is a recent P40 of mine. A MK.1 Kittyhawk of the RAF–with the all important shark mouth! in 1/72 scale)
Agreed! thanks for the info! I’ve only seen these things at EAA once a year…
Hans in the man… he has the info… [Y] lol
OWL…, its a captured P-40E, that when the Japs captured it, they left the nose art from the Americans. The bird head, feathers, were hand painted by the americans… then I replicated the markings with my airbrush and and some hand painting… here’s the thread…
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Damned-few, and I’m glad I got to meet the ones I did back in the 80s and 90s…
Here’s the current AVG Roster:
Two Pilots:
Ken Jernstedt
Carl Brown.
Six ground crew
- Charles Baisden (armorer)
- Michael Callan (ground crew)
- David Harris (headquarters staff)
- Frank Losonsky (crew chief)
- Kee Jeung Pon (engineering specialist)
- Joseph Poshefko (armorer)
- Randall Richardson (weatherman)
- Edward Stiles (crew chief)
Some Tigers went home early, got a “dishonorable discharge,” and for that reason aren’t recognized by the Flying Tigers Association.
The other, main reason there are so few left is that the Tigers were mostly drawn from the pool of “Pre-war” pilots and ground personel, guys that had first enlisted in the mid-late 1930s, hence they tend to be bit older than the “typical”, Post-7 December 41 WW2 veterans…