P-61 Black Widow

Echolmberg

Yes, I think prices down in the US are different from those in europe
Since the Revell kit is from the US and GWH is from the UK (I think) and I bought mine there.

But you really have to keep in mind that the Revell isn’t that good,
and I think that GWH is the same level as Tamiya or any other brand up top.

The Times a wastin’ is standard in the Revell box, together with hussling hussy.
Paint I used was the ‘Tamiya X-18 Semi gloss black’, using a paint brush.

Regards Ninetalis.

i thought the GW kit would have sold like hot cakes but it hasn’t. theres honestly nothing special about from what i been told.

but im not sure because i actually haven’t scene the sprues in person. theres a little amount of accuracy problems but no kit is 100% accurate.

i hope someone makes a new tool A-26.

You’re exactly right. The Revellogram kit isn’t that good. It’s GREAT!

I’d hesitate to say that just because something is at the “same level as Tamiya or any other brand up top” means it’s the best one or even the correct one. It might be engineered to near perfection but in no way does that mean it’s correct. In my humble opinon, the more a model kit contains the cold sterility of computerized perfection, the further away it takes it from being a work of art created by the hand of Man.

Eric

Ahhh the P-61. The most polarizing aircraft in the forum…I don’t know what it is about this plane that gets people going. I picked up the GW kit during one of those holiday sales (Either Squadron’s or Sprue’s) just to see what all the hubbub was about. It has it’s flaws, as numerous reviews have pointed out, but is overall a nice kit. The Monogram kit is a gem too, with patience. Perhaps it’s poetic justice that to build the -A model I’m planning for the GW kit I’ll be cannibalizing items from the Monogram Widow in my stash. The end result will be a hybrid. Though I’m sure someone will say “Yeah, but you shouldn’t have to need 2 kits to make 1”…Ugh.

Well, if GW sold their Widow for around 16.00-25.00 (the prices I’ve seen on the Monogram Widow), it’ d be my choice too… Frankly, I think about everyone that’s into 1/48th WW2 aircraft woulda bought a couple of them… I know I would have… Heck, since it’s release in the mid-70s, I’ve bought at least ten P-61s, with five being purchased in just the last four years… Think anyone is gonna do that with GW’s offering?

A “nice, with a few minor flaws” kit MSRP’d at 80-90.00 bucks just ain’t gonna get it with me… And GW didn’t even include any figures… Folks can “Oohh and Ahhh” all they want to about it, but I don’t see it as a kit I’m ever gonna be inclined to spend that kind of money on…

People BM&W about Revellogram’s offering, saying it’s old, it’s out-dated, fits poorly, yadda, yadda, yadda… But what they can’t say is that it’s too expensive, doesn’t let you build two variants, it’s outta scale, etc… No, it’s not a “Shake & Bake”, and it never was meant to be one… It was meant to allow a kid of 12 build a nice, accurate replica of a famous and (at the time) practically unknown USAAF fighter… It’s up the guy with the glue and paint to make it a GREAT model…

But you CAN build two P-61s out of two Monogram Widow kits… And you can build them with “equal” engine cowls if you’re into doing a little minor surgery, lol… Last time I did one, I took the left engine from one kit, and built it into the other kit on the right boom, exposing the left engine, then on the right boom, mounted the left engine from the donor kit, and I had a P-61A with both booms sporting open cowl flaps…

Then, they parts from the other kit went into making the second, “donor” kit a P-61B with both engines having “buttoned-up” nacelles and closed cowl flaps.

From what I read, there’s plenty of AM stuff out there to “correct” the Monogram Widow’s few faults, and even then, the completed model will come in well-under the price-tag of Great Wall’s P-61…

Wait’ll y’all see what I got to say about that “new” Devastator out there…[whstl]

My wife actually gave me the GW TBD as a Valentine’s gift. Great when someone else is payin’ for it.! That said I actually have the old Monogram TBD about to roll off the bench onto the display shelf. I love the Monogram TBD! Ranks right up there with AM’s TBM and SBD, well IMO anyway. I hadn’t built the Momgram offering since I was about 9 or 10. I had a blast building the “veteran” kit. Only minor fit issues: that misalignment in the corrugated wings and careful sanding so as not to lose the (accurate) raised detail and some additional sprue and solder to spiffy things up. As good as the GW kit looks, and boy does it look good, it is missing some things Monogram offered: namely the engine crank and .30 bays in the nose as well as the Norden for the bombadier. And of course, no figures. But I do get to display the Monogram done up in pre-war shiny and the GW in MIdway markings for either Waldron or Gay side-by-side.

if it was up to tamiya standards, it would have sold fast and be more accurate.

You mean like their Betty?

For the record, and in a spirit of full disclosure, Phil stole my user name about 15 years before I ever even thought it up. I guess we share something in common…

Summun needs to create a smilie for “zombie threads”…

Looks more like a Watchmen smiley… [:|]