Out of the bottle Hull Red?

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Any suggestions for a Hull Red? I’m doing Trumpeter’s Seawolf, not a bad kit just needs a ton of filling and sanding. Painting instruc. leave much to be desired. Read a lot of on-line reviews, know the pitfalls and have fixed the 1/16" gap in the lower hull length - WOW so much for quality control. strip styrene fills that nicly.

Anybody make a ready to use hull red? I like Floquil Caboose red, but am a little unsure.

Thanks

Jake

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Lifecolor acrylic camouflage series UA 606 Schiffsbodenfarbe Rot 5. Used this on most of my ship builds as it looks just like the good old lead based anti fouling that used to be used the ships I sailed on. It might be a bit pale for US vessels though, maybe Ed Grune can throw in some advice on that point.

cheers, Julian

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I know the Tamiya hull red is really close to a brown, I used it for the main color on this kit.

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Greetings:

I’ve used Tamiya’s hull red up until recently. I then switched to Krylon’s ruddy brown primer in a spray can which seems to work out much better and is very reasonably priced at around $2. I use this exclusively now.

Michael Lacey

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I’ve had good results with the following colors: Testors Model Master or Acryl Rust; Floquil Polly Scale Oxide Red; and Polly Scale Sepcial Oxide Red.

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Thanks for the quick replys, I also thought Floquil Tuscan Red looked nice, BUT I believe it’s too dark, Another review of the model showed it to be almost a bright red, thats why I was thinking of Caboose Red.

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I uploaded some pictures of another model showing the hull red they used. link here, let me know about the red color.

http://community.webshots.com/album/577788841WwTwBX

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HI,JAKE: Hey,you have a good question there. I have used TESTORS “MODELMASTER” rust on all my builds.My customers like it ,always asking How did you get the bottom color so close to real??? You can tone it to many shades so you can have old looking bottom paint or shipyard new. TANKERBUILDER

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I generally use Testors MM British Crimson. For some civil ships I use a red oxide primer. I use this instead of the nomal gray primer I use, then mask off the bottom and leave it in the red oxide color as a finish color. In fact, some civil ships have the whole hull in red oxide. But, all military stuff that have a red below waterline I use the British Crimson.

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To throw another option your way, modern US submarines no longer operate with red bottoms. They’re now black over black.

MM Engine Gray, Interior Black, and/or Floquil Grimy Black are good options. Do the bow dome and sonar WAA arrays in a darker black for some tonal difference

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Ed,

I know the ships now have an all black appearance, but it just does not look as sharp as the two tone. The bow of the Seawolf class is ALL fiberglass and when painted gives a duller look, sam epaint just a different finish.

Don,

I’ll look up the MM Crimson Red to see whay she might look like.

Thanks

Jake

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Jake

I think that Rustoleum red primer in spray cans at your local hardware store is pretty close.

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The Rustoleum red primer is a red oxide primer, right on for many civil ships. It is close but not a perfect match for modern military ships.

However, I have stopped using the Rustoleum primer, as I find it eats into and softens the plastic a bit. It then takes forever to completely dry. It is okay when used over other primer, but I have stopped using it directly on plastic. It is fine on wood models, however.

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I use MM enamels. Here are a couple of subs I did, playing with different red/brown mixtures:

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Pic of a JSDF modern sub surfacing (Yushio); you can see the red:

!(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd52/JMartiney/Ship Sinkers FSM 08/Yushiowater.jpg)

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Don,

I was able to stop by my LHS and get the Testors “British Crimson”, you’re right it’s dead on,

Thanks Jake