New to Building Model ships. Intoducing myself, and I have a few questions!

Hello all! My name is Matt and I have recently been really getting into WWII era warships. My interest in this really came from playing the game World of Warhips on xbox one. I follow a couple facebook groups for the mentioned game and have seen several people post up model warships they have built, and I really enjoyed looking at them.

A few weeks ago I went to local discount store to just look around and stumbled across a random 1/400 scale model of the HMS Hood by Lindberg. It was only 15 bucks and I thought what better way to break myself into model ship building than a cheap model like that? Well the following day I started the assembly, and i was immediately hooked! I had the entire thing done (minus paint) in about 3 hours.

Now I dont know much about brands and quality, but there parts left over, and the intrustions from Lindberg were pretty vague, but enough to get me through my first build. Not knowing much about these models I would give a personal rating of this kit a 2.5/5 stars.

With my new addiction, I immediatly began looking at online retailers to find my next model to start. Through some research it seems that Trumpeter is a pretty good brand. I wanted to stick with a similiar size as my 1/400 Hood, and ended up buying the Trumpeter 1/350 HMS Queen Elizabeth 1943. I’m hoping it ships out today or tomorrow and i can start on it soon.

I do have a couple questions regarding paint though. I want to paint my models and make then look nice. I can manage painting the things like guns, superstructure, and hull, but i am wondering what paint/colors everyone uses to get a wood like finish on the plastic decking? I would like to paint the wooden(plastic) decking prior to starting assembly so i dont have to try to paint around the guns and structures on the deck.

Any and all advice is welcome and appreciated!

Hi and Welcome!

As to your deck color. Take Testors or Tamiya’s Light Tan Semi-Gloss paint. Then Add one drop of black or very light grey. Mix well and paint away.

TIP:

What I used to do years ago, and still do on anything smaller than 1/200 is this. Take a brand New, very Sharp X-Acto knife and turn the blade backwards to the surface. Now carefully letting the blade tip rest in the angle between the deck and whatever is molded on. Slide the knife backwards around the area gently. Do this twice.

This will create a line to which the paint will go to, then stop if you are gentle and keep your brush lightly loaded. I learned this by accident while watching a painter re-paint around our kitchen cabinets after Hurricane damage. he cut a little groove between the cabinet edge and the plaster. The paint stayed on the plaster, Not! the cabinets!

Thanks for the tips! Do you have a suggested retailer that carry the mentioned paints in stock and have a quick delivery time? Just got the update that my new model has shipped, would like to get the paint (at least for the decking) at the same time. My plan is to paint the deck the wood color with your mentioned method, and then do the assembly. Come back with a fine brush and paint everything else.

Take a look at Scalehobbiest or Sprue Bros. They have fair pricing and ship quickly. If you have a hobbystore nearby you might check them out as well.

Brush painting a 1/350 battleship with a brush is going to be a chore.

Well well well, BBorBust have you open yourelf a can of worms. Ships, what a wide world of sports.

WoWs hmm? I show up there on occasion. Their ship rendering is excelent, colors not so much. I refrence them on occasion for rigging and such. Their computer modeling is well researched.
I am supper excited to see another modler intrested in the dark art of ship modeling.

As you have discovered…Lindberg…I’d give them a 1 ot of 5 myself, however there are some nice ones I’ve heard. Trumperer, Tamiya, Hasegawa, Fujimi, Hobby Boss and some Revell (Revell of Germany [blue box] that is) are nice kits…95% of them. 1/350 is a super nice, all be it, large scale. 1/200 is really nice but few have the room. 1/700 is also nice, and small enough to display, however it takes a little work to keep them from looking like toys. unless you want more practice, I’d stay away from the other scales as they were typically made before there were standard scales.

There’s a whole world of after market parts, paints, photo etch for your little navy.

As far as paints, I will typiclly use Vallejo, simply because it’s very easy to brush and you will have much to brush. I don’t know if you have an air buush but they don’t spray easy unless you thin them correctly, Vallejo air is made for spraying. And as you have found, painting the deck first is you best bet, infact I usually build the hull and deck, paint those then move onto the superstructure.

I have going now, two group builds, British and American ships, which you are more than encouraged to join, with a Greman ship GB coming online in September. No experance nessecary and you will learn much. Any question answered, usually by the likes of long time ship modelers and others who like to dable in the dark arts on occasion.

Ask away with your questions and good luck with your builds.

P.S. do consider the GB’s

Thanks for the warm welcome! And yead I really want to start on American Ships, but since i found the Hood as a surprise buy, i figured I would keep the theme going and get another British dreadknought. The aforementioned Queen Elizabeth.

And pardon my not knowing, but you mentioned something about group builds? I would interested in more information on that.

I have been looking into some german BB’s too. I would love to build the 2 sets of sister ships. Being the Bismark, and Tirpitz, and the Scarnhorst, and Gneisenau.

Also, mentioned above is a method of paint to paint the deck of my models. Says a semi-gloss tan, with a drop of semi-gloss black, mix well and paint. I found these on Scale Hobbyist. would these be a good fit?

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Paint_and_Construction/tan-semi-gloss/GSI00000C44/product.php

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Paint_and_Construction/black-semi-gloss/GSI00000C92/product.php

Fine ships all. Aaand I have a British ships GB at the link below

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/179138.aspx

And the American link, so you can jump in and ask questions or just watch.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/182307.aspx

A correction, the German GB will start on 1 Aug and I’ll have the official thread up in July.

A Group build is just a bunch of members getting together on the forum and building something similar, be it subject I.E. ships, tanks, planes, or timeframe, I.E. 1942, or Cold War etc., or even manufacturer I.E. Airfix, Monogram etc. within a timeframe.
You would tell the host, or co-host if there is one, in this case me, what you wanted to build like the Hood and/or QE.

A group build host is simply the idiot who comes up with a cool idea, poses said cool idea and others who think it’s a cool idea as well and says “hey, that sound like a cool idea, I want to play”.
There’s no cost (other than the kit), requirement (other that the kit), experence or anything other than your willingness to participate. If you fail to complete said kit…nothing happens, you just don’t finish in time. Most GB host also create a badge that you can proudly display in your signature line, as you probably have noticed. This badge is your reward for completing said kit within the GB’s timeframe. Read the rules the host posts and see if it is something your intrested in, willing to commit within the timeframe, or not, and join up.

I really enjoy GB’s. It gives me the feeling of comradery, a way to show off my work in progress (WIP) without starting a seperate thread and a great place for questions and answeres, again without starting a new thread. The thread may veer off the track on occasion but that’s part of the fun of a bunch of friends gathering around and doing something together. They also encourage one to finish and press the envelope and do better with each new build. My skills have risen 95% since I joined in 2014 and participated in GB’s.

BTW, the British Ships GB’s is a little slow at the moment but it doesn’t mean that members aren’t watching and participating. If fact, I still have several I need to build for it and I will always be in it.

Mr Color is an acrylic lacquer and difficult to brush I’ve found, if you are brushing. It’s a little touchy to spray as well IMO. They make great colors though.

Welcome!

If you are interested, the colors used for your battleship can be a fairly tricky subject.

Here’s a document that is pretty comprehensive to give you an idea of the choices and somerepresentation of what they look like. There’s a line of paints named colourcoats that are specific to this and are accurate.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0730/0927/files/Royal_Navy_colours_of_World_War_Two_-_Standard_Camouflage_Colours_1941_to_1943.pdf?4510537543498049762

Here’s a document that lists the various measures The QE was painted in at what times.

I have not built that kit. I would not follow the Trumpeter color callouts; I generally find them to be too vague.

I think this is a pretty ambitious kit and you should consider a few less complicated ones until you get a feeling for it.

Good luck, ships are fun models.

Bill

Thanks for the welcome! I feel I am up for the challenge. I am new to these model ships, but not working with my hands. I found the 1/400 Hood from Lindberg I built to be easy. I had no difficultly at all.

I work on cars often, as well as guns. Real steel and airsoft. If you have never opened up an airsoft gun gearbox, there are a lot of little parts and springs that need to be put exactly into place in order for it operate properly. While I know this is not even close to the same type of work, I know that I have a steady hand and plenty of patience to do it. I feel where this new QE will show my inexperience will be in the paint. But I will do my best, and make it look as good as I can.

Thanks for the link too BTW, looking through it now.

For 2¢ my peacetime RN wood deck finish was Unbleached Linen as the base coat.

This would get a coat of yellow ocher oil wash (around 4:1 thinner to paint). Aproximately dry, (oil paint is forgiving that way) a wash of burnt umber (very thin, 5-6:1).

The ocher put a bit of modulation in the base coat, the umber picked out the moulded-in detail.

Tanker’s idea of a gray wash would be cool, too.

For sailing ships, I might use Radome Tan as the base.

YMMV

Hi;

Well,with the Covid19 I don’t about your municipality, I don’t know. Hobby Lobby there might do curbside. Then you can use Testors, AK-Interactive, Vallejo or Tamiya. Whatever they have .With Tamiya, get a bottle of their retarder and it, when mixed will let the paint flow from a brush like silk.

LOLs!

I don’t go to the place much, because when I do there’s maybe 3-4 employees in a 20,000 sq. ft. store.


All fine advice, here’s mine; take all the info you’ve acquired ,add your enthusiasm and ability and find another HOOD and try to make it what you would do to the Queen Mary. I’ll send you mine if you can’t find one.

I literally have learned A TON of stuff from this website and few youtubers that I watch I would have known when building my Hood. I ordered some paint from scale hobbyist that has some pretty good reviews. I will take my time with the QE and make her as perfect as I can. I am really excited to get started on her! Tracking says the model will be on my doorstep this Friday.

So as long as my paint makes it on time I will spend my time Friday evening going through the kit and familiarizing myself with everything, and maybe start mixing up a few of the colors I got until I am happy with the look and paint the decking. I will upload pictures on here and on the GB I joined in on.

Just wanted to say a quick thank you to everyone that has welcomed me, and given me great advise to start my path on the road of making these models show worthy to display on my bookshelf.

I have another question for you guys. I want to sand rough edges where I seperate the pieces from the plastic that is holding it in place. What is the best grit sandpaper to use to smooth out the little chunks of plastic that breaks off on the molding? Should I just use sheets of sandpaper? Or sandpaper sticks?

Be sure to cut the parts loose.

I buy cheap sanding sticks at the CVS in three-four grades. I wouldn’t use anything rougher than medium fine to fine.

I’ll second GM…get the nail files from any beauty section of a local store, ie. Walmart etc. Look for medium and fine grit. If you go with the hobby made stuff, I generally go with 240 grit to smooth off parts and seams.

Primer and a final scuff generally hides scratches in a matt finish

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Also, invest in a good pair of flush cutting diagonal cutters to cut the parts off. You will be amazed how much work it saves and filling that you’ll avoid. There are sprue cutters for sale, and they are great tools but I’ve found that a pair of elecrtical wire cutters, as long as they cut flush, works just as well and are a little less expensive.

$10 from Home Depot