New member-new ti this hobby.

[Caspersen]

Hello everyone. I hope this post finds everyone happy and healthy.

I need your assistance. I have build 3 models so far and while I can see that I have slightly improve, I can see that I still do not have the results I anticipate from my models and I was wondering how can I improve.

my biggest problem is the following. I paint the parts and I glue parts, but the glue messes with the paint. I try to patch the damage with paint but it ruins my result.

for instance I am building a HELLER beautiful ship and I had this perfect painted hall, glued, painted and it was just perfect and I had to put the base which did not fit correctly and as a result , until I find a way to glue it , the glue had created a mess. I dried to scratch the part with a hobby knife and paint it again. But still I can see the patch. Thankfully the base is a place that peoplemdont really focus their attention to, but I do. And this makes me very stressed and well disappointed.

(that model was supposed to be gifted, well I am sure my friend will not bother since what matters is that I have putted so much effort and love but still this makes me much more sad than I would thought so)

any thoughts?

thanks in advance

[gregbale]

First…[snWcm] aboard, and I hope you continue to enjoy this great hobby!

Other than things like interiors, I try mightily not to do any serious painting until after basic construction is done. It’s too hard to deal with any filling and sanding of seams – not to mention glue from attachment points of other parts, and things like scrapes and fingerprints – without having to basically go back and redo significant parts of the painting. And, as you’ve discovered, once something does go wrong, it’s really hard to match touchups and repaired areas.

All that having been said…there are frequently things that need to be painted first. You can minimize the grief by making sure to scrape any paint away from the actual surfaces that are being glued, since the paint will prevent the glue from being able to essentially ‘melt’ those surfaces for a good strong bond. (Ironically it will usually dissolve the paint and make a squishy mess, but won’t get a good bond from the plastic.)

The other trick, when using glue near paint is necessary, is to use tape, Blue-Tack or Silly Putty to try to mask off and protect painted areas. This comes with its own potential hazards – since glue leaking or wicking into or under any of those things will cause more mess.

Last, you didn’t mention what kind of glue you’re using or how it’s applied…but brushes or applicator nozzles, or anything that gives a little bit more precise control with dispensing the adhesive, can help fend off those headaches.

As to the bad fit of the base…we’ve all been there. A lot of us test-fit parts and assemblies as we build…but it’s easy to forget those last added bits, or things like bases, where bad fit or other surprises can put a dent in otherwise-satisfactory projects. The only real cure for that is to always try to be thinking a step or two (or three) ahead, to try to think what might go wrong before it does. The good news is, that will come with experience.

Hope any of this is helpful. If you’ve got specific problems or questions, by all means let 'em fly. There’s a pretty good ‘brain trust’ on this forum, with lots of different interests and levels of experience, so good advice is seldom in short supply.

Cheers [:D]

[Tojo72]

Welcome to FSM,we’ll your in the right place for knowledge,I’m sure you’ll get lotsa help in the various forums.

[fox]

Hello there! Welcome to the Forums! Happy to have you with us!

I agree with everything Greg said above. All that I can add is that it just takes a little planning ahead. Study the part you’re working on and think ahead “Where is this going and what part of it is going to be glued to what part? Ok then the parts to be glued together don’t get painted at those points.” Those few minutes you spend doing that will save you a lot of headaches in the end.

Hope that my [2cnts] helps a little. I started building models in 1946 at the age of 6 and never stopped. I’ve learned a lot from the members of this forum and I’ll probably learn a lot more in the future. Hang in there and keep asking questions.

Stay safe.

Jim [cptn]

[GAF]

Hi, and welcome to the forum!

Gary

[Usen1981]

Hello, I’m also a newbie. The glue also messed my paint. So tired of this problem.

[the_Baron]

Welcome to you new guys!

You might want to look down in the Painting and Airbrushing forum, too:

https://cs.finescale.com/fsm/tools_techniques_and_reference_materials/f/18.aspx

There is a lot of good info, good tips and tricks, in the various subject forums, too.

I look forward to seeing your builds!

Best regards,

Brad

[missileman2000]

Also check out the ships forum, and down near the painting forum is the tools forum which frequently has rigging tools.

[herringbur]

Hello, how to protect that paint layer? I’m just tired of them

[disastermaster]

Jim’s right.

Learn this first.

Patience and thinking ahead is the key.

And it’s also the rewarding key to much of life and living well.

[John3M]

What kind of paint are you using? Is it acrylic water-based or is it a lacquer base paint what brand of paint are you using? How long do you wait after you’ve painted to glue your parts together? The glue will melt your paint you need to wait several hours with acrylic paint And perhaps 24 hours with lacquer paint before working with it again do not get frustrated do not quit. The only way to learn is by your mistakes. The problem will correct itself with time and practice suggestion is to work on inexpensive cheap models before going to the expensive ones, make your mistakes on $10 models not $100 boats

when in doubt come on the form and ask questions. Everyone here is friendly. They will help you