Hey guys. Just for a diversion, I decided to put away the things that are pressure builds on deadline, and write a simple review of Eduard’s new Profipak Morane-Saulnier N. It is a beautiful kit, and is a monoplane with the parasol rigging. The etched parts are many and perfect, and the moldings, especially the engine, are works of art. The even include masks, though I’m still not sure what all these masks are for. The decals are spot on. Don’t know about the fit yet.
My question is, since I’m doing this quick and dirty (though I mean that strictly metaphorically), I don’t have time to mail order doped linen paint. Does anyone know a good way to mix a nice doped linen, for both inside and outside? Does Radome tan work? I’ve alway had a bear of a time getting a doped linen look that I was happy with, but them, I don’t build a lot of biplanes and WW I monoplanes like the M-S. I simply admire the work of those hearty souls who are so good at them.
Thanks,
Tom
Tom,
Don’t know if you’ve seen this already, but here is a link to a natural doped linen color swatch at stolkholm IPMS (even has equivalent FS #)
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorserver/showcolor.asp?fs=33617
hope this helps
Tom:
u could start with Model Master Panzer Interior Buff as the base color,
it’s pretty close… either lighten or darken it as u see fit…
it’s what i used as the clear doped base 4 the streaky green camo
on my Fokker Dr.1…
hth,
frosty[:)]
Tom,
A few month’s ago I took the route of using radome tan on the wings of a 1/72 Sopwith Snipe. I stopped at that point cuz I knew it just didn’t look right. I’m planning on going over it with a mixture that uses a little gray. To me - it appeared a little too bright and a little too yellow.
Good luck - and let us know if you find a mix recipie that fit’s. I’m not all that eager to go out and buy a bottle of every individual color I need.
Chris
How about some variation on MM Sand?
i think that would probably work just fine…
good luck w/ ur project !
frosty[:)]
Thanks. I think I’ll use sand straight out on the interior, then caramelize it a little with something (I’m taking suggestoins) to replicate the dope on the outside, which was a sort of, well, caramel brown in the can, and became clear as the coats go thinner, but it retained a bit of that color when placed next to an undoped piece of linen, or a piece with only one coat, such as the inside.
Tom
Clear doped linen (CDL) has the approximate translucency of a sheet of wax paper. The actual color depends on the flax used in its manufacture and the varnish used to protect it. On an airframe it can range from pure white to a canvas gray to a deep honey yellow. Its nearly impossible to capture the translucency, but, with careful shading, you can create its illusion.
CDL basic mix: White 80-90%, yellow 7-5%, olive 2-3%, violet 0-2%. British aircraft fabric tends to be a bit lighter and a bit more olive, French more yellow, and German more gray.
CDL Top Surfaces: Use the basic mix with ribs painted in a slightly darker, browner shade.
For weathering, drybrush with burnt umber to simulate oxidized varnish (particularly noticeable on French aircraft).
CDL Bottom Surfaces (when top surfaces are CDL): Use a slightly yellow off-white shade with ribs painted in a darker, grayer shade of the basic mix. Spars can be indicated with slightly darker soft-edged span-wise stripes. Copying the top markings to the lower surface in pastel shades with very soft edges can heighten the illusion of translucency.
CDL Bottom Surfaces (when top surfaces are a solid color): Use a slightly darker, grayer shade of the basic mix. Spars can be indicated with darker soft-edged span-wise stripes. Paint the ribs, leading edge lath and trailing edge former (if used on the real plane) in the basic mix. Topside markings would only show through if the topside color were very light.
Good Luck
Silverback
Silverback: Thanks for a great lesson. I need to learn more about painting and weathering WW I a/c. Do you have any tips on this particular type, the Morane-Asulnier Type N? I’m using the paint scheme with the very wide red-white-red stripes in the middle of the aft fuselage and the black metal areas on the fore furselage.
Tom