Just saw a blurb on Yahoo that Paul Allen from Microsoft says he has found her. Several errors in the blurb though.
Would be intersting if true.That Ballard stuff is really fascinating.
Said he spent 8 years looking for her. Pics on Yahoo show a valve and the space on the bow for the Chrysanthemum seal of the Empire. Says pics on Allen’s website show the valve, bow, a gun turret, starboard anchor and a catapult.
Wonder if they have ever located her sister Yamoto, or the 3rd “stepsister” they converted to a carrier that USS Archerfish sunk.
A Japanese expedition located the wreck of the Yamato quite a few years ago. The discovery is no secret, but hasn’t gotten a great deal of publicity. The wreck is inside Japanese territorial waters, and Japanese culture frowns severely on disturbing grave sites.
There are a few sketches of the wreck site in Janos Skulski’s superb Anatomy of the Ship: The Battleship Yamato.
Incidentally - several different systems of transliterating Japanese characters into the western alphabet have been in use over the years, but I’m accustomed to seeing the *Yamato’*s sister ship spelled Musashi.
This is interesting.
Goldhammer, the third ‘stepsister’ of which you speak was Shinano. I read a great book one time detailing the exploits of Archerfish and her captain, Joe Enright, on the mission to sink Shinano. Wish I could remember the name of it.
Speaking of shipwrecks, I also recently finished a book called ‘Cry From The Deep’, which relates the story of the sinking of the Russian submarine Kursk in August, 2000. What makes the event doubly sad is the Soviet-era thinking that was still in place, making top level officials reluctant to ask for help or disclose key information that could be used to rescue the then-survivors in the aft compartment of the sub. I highly recommend this book for anyone interested in shipwrecks or submarine history.
Chris
Now is the chance to shine, IJN fans!
On his Twitter, Mr. Allen asks for help identifying use of the valve.
OP check the spelling on your post.
Having just read a book about the sinking of the Bismark which didn’t cost the FAA any aircraft, this was really a different story. This ship took so much punishment that included a turret explosion that it was able to preserve the lives of half of its crew, plus 800 survivors from the Maya.
Pretty tough stuff.
I have a book called “Pigboats” and there is a chapter on Archerfish’s sinking of Shinano.
I love Ballard’s book on some of those underse wrecks.i have the one on Bismarck,the ships of Midway,and ships of Guadalcanal,I would recommend them.
More on the WW2 Japanese ship found:
Thanks BS214:
That’s a very sharp video.
Does anyone know if the Shinano wreck was ever found?
Very interesting indeed.
The only thing that bothers me a little bit is the assertion that the chrysanthemum crest identifies the ship. My understanding is that all Japanese surface ships had such crests - though the bigger ships had bigger crests.
I googled “wreck of battleship yamato.” That brought up several sites, a fair number of photos, a video, and reproductions of the drawings in Mr. Skulski’s book.
Fascinating stuff.
Yes, IIRC, the Imperial Crest was on the bow of all IJN warships. I learned that off “Victory at Sea”, “Rings Around Rabaul” when I was a young boy…,
So here is a serious question. Does this mean that Paul Allen now owns the world’s largest battleship?
Under international maritime law is it considered a wreck that can be salvaged or a war grave that must be left alone?
I would assume a war grave, but it would be something to salvage one of the main gun turrets for a display somewhere.
That would be a serious task. I vaguely recall reading that each turret weighed as much as a small Destroyer.
Imagine finding 1000 Japanese sailor remains of what’s left of them inside.
I doubt that there would be much left of human remains onboard her after 70 years at the bottom of the Sibuyan Sea. But still, this was not a ship that was scuttled after evacuating her crew, like the Graf Spee. Musashi went down in combat taking many of her crew with her. She is both their tomb and tombstone.
The fact that this gent found her doesn’t make her his property. I have no idea what Filipino law says about shipwrecks. The fact that she was a naval vessel complicates things. I don’t know what possible claim Japan may have to the wreck. Or, for that matter, the governments to which Japan surrendered.
Confederate shipwrecks are the property of the U.S. government. So is the USS Arizona. The Musashi. As a Japanese warship lying in Philipino waters, is, I suspectt, a comlex legal case. I suppose there’s a potential there for a bunch of lawyers to make a whole lot of money. Personally, I’ll be happiest if they photograph the wreck, document it, and leave it in peace.
1500 tons would be a bit much to bring up, and while it would be something to see and put the size of the Yamato’s in perspective, I really agree with jtilley she should be left as is and just documented. At least she has been found and the actual location can give some closure to relatives of the men lost on her.
Now if we could find all of the 52 boats still on patrol that we lost.
Just saw an article in our paper, Allen says he respects it as a war grave, and will work to see it is honored in Japanese traditions.