I think I hear where you are coming from too, Stik.
And I maybe understand a little about “one contributing factor”.
Laskdjn, my apologies for wandering OT from Mission Models paints. I want to try some too, so good luck to us both, eh?
Yup, sorry about dragging this thread away from the original topic.
From someone who has used them-
Mission Models Paints: Try them, you’ll like them!
No worries. I actually hate southern California and can’t wait to leave.
Hi laskdjn. Wher’d you get the 10:5:2 ratio ? The instructions on the website say to use 20-40 drops paint to 4-6 drops thinner. I tried that on their black primer & it was like sludge. It was barely sprayable & I had to wing it by adding much more thinner [ probably closer to what you did ] . After that,it did spray & work wonderfully.Plus, using their thinner to clean my airbrush was a breeze.Later today,I’m gonna put the finish color on,hoping the paint thins better than the primer,especially with adding their polymer additive.Anyone else run into what I did ? Thanks. Keith R.
Keith,
I came up with that ratio through experimentation. I tried their percentages first, I then altered it to the point where I thought I got the best performance.
Thanks Laskdjn for the reply. That’s what I had to do with he primer to get it to work.I Did find that the M.M. paint is much thinner right outta the bottle & I was able to spray closer to their ratio’s .I must agree with everyone else’s comments as for how well it works.I am impressed. I was able to use a 2 m.m. needle & nozzle on my AB with Zero nozzle drying or clogging. I was able to do an Octopus camo pattern on an Trumpeteer E-5- chassis w/ a Paper Panzed Prod. Einheitsturm 1947 resin turret. Hope to post pix when done.The other nice thing is how easy cleaning the AB so thoroughly with their thinner,always a good thing . Thanks again, keith R.
edit ; I meant E-50 Trumpeteer.
I was just so used to fighting dry tip with vallejo that using mmp was so effortless.
I had to switch to acrylics due to health reasons and after seeing reviews for Mission Models Paint I gave them a try. I use a Patriot 105 with 0.3mm needle and tip and use a ratio of 5% thinner to paint with a couple of drops of poly and get great results.Their primer I use 5-10% thinner. This is my go to paint now and I’m very happy with it.
Mine too, I’m slowly weeding out all the Vallejo I had in exchange for MMP.
Had a question for people who know more than me. Recently I picked up tire black and NATO Black from mission models paint. I stirred them both and then shook the crap out of them both before using. But when I painted them, neither really came out black. The NATO Black was more of a really dark green and the tire black was like a wet cement color. Did anyone else come across this? Did I do something wrong?
I watched them demo the paint at the Nats, and was impressed. Their flat clear saved my bacon in the contest room, as I had to make a last minute repair using CA glue. You know how that goes - you try to be careful but the glue always oozes out. MMP flat was the first acrylic that I brushed that actually dried flat.
I also love the paint, but I’m curious about their blacks not really being black
Tamiya’s NATO black is also greenish. I don’t know if that reflects 1:1 reality though, as photos I have seen sure look black. Tire black should be a dark grey, not straight black.
I don’t how the Mission Model paints are supposed to look, but Tamiya XF-69 NATO Black is black with a bit of green tint.
I would imagine that Tire black would have a bit of brown tint.
In the past, I used testors rubber (in the square 1/4 oz jars) to paint tires. It was a really dark brown color.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EsCGIHL4jj9Qd67SUOHpNEjkLlMEph3j/view?usp=drivesdk
Or this one.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15uPugK4BdgZbcFaRtZt5WTISZUfbb0Bp/view?usp=drivesdk
Don’t know if y’all can see this, but I did a comparison. In the end is regular black, next in is mission models tire black, followed by mission models NATO black
I have their MMP-047 and it is pure black, I think the greenish black was their NATO Black MMP-035
Mission Models Tire Black is a bit lighter than Tamiya Tire Black. Both are “dirty” very dark grays.
As far as real NATO Black goes, it starts out very flat and is a pure black, but when it fades, it fades to a very dark neutral gray. I never saw any take on a greenish hue like the Tamiya color.
Mission Models NATO black is the same way
NATO Black is a whole different shade of black as opposed to flat black no matter the brand. So, NATO Black does have a bit of a greyish tone. Tire black is more darkish greyish black like the color of tires - not black.