Ok guys you gotta help me figure this out, as it’s driving me crazy!!! I have enough cement around the house to kill someone anyway, which is why I’m a bit cautious about running out and buying the Tenax 7, but some people seem to swear by it. Mike, I thought it might help if you could run off the list of ingredients to compare the Tamiya Cement to see if they are the same. JHulk, I need you to translate the ingredients in the Tamiya Cement as I can’t find it anywhere, and can’t read japanese. Thanks guys for your time and help…and if anyone else knows the differences or swears by one or the other, please feel free to chime in!!! Thanks again!!
Of the two you listed I like Tenax but I use Ambroid mainly. I feel the Tenax is a slightly more diluted product so it isn’t as touchy about how quickly it welds a joint. If my pieces fit together nicely I use the Ambroid. My friend Andy used the Tenax for many years and I gave him a bottle of the Ambroid to try out and he has made the switch as well. It has a stronger smell because it has a higher concentration of the active ingredient M.E.K. . By the way your comparison should take into account concentration of the solvent as that has a lot to do with the performance of the cement.
I suppose the main reason I ask is to find a cement that is as durable and strong as possible. At this time I use Plasti-Zap for basic pieces, and for fuselages I use Plasti-Zap to tack it down, and then the Tamiya Thin Cement to help fill in the seems, because it makes the plastic soft, and pushes it outward of the joint. I wanted to make sure that it is a strong enough joint…and if not what is the strongest? Unfortunately, my research generally just turns up a lot of propoganda, and not really any answers.
Huh? [%-)]
I don’t have any Tamiya cement and I have never tried it.
Have you been in those Vicodin’s again? [:-^] [;)]
Mike
I meant off of your Tenax bottle…The Tamiya cement I wanted to see if Jhulk could translate it, 'cause it’s in Japanese!!! Otherwise I’d read the Tamiya cement myself!!! [:P][;)]
Heath,
The Tenax 7R lists no ingredients on the bottle.
Mike
Damn!!! I guess I’ll just have to break down and get the Tenax, and see what the hell it does for myself!!! LOL I guess that is the only thing I can do in my quest to find the ultimate bonds and joints!!! Onward…to the LHS!!! Oh damn, they don’t stock it. Never mind, I’ll get it on my next Micro Mark order.
Heath,
They don’t have Tenax in stock? What kind of a rundown store is that anyway? [:D]
There is a Hobby Town USA in San Marcos, CA but that is a little far for you to drive isn’t it?
This place sells the Tenax kit like I have for only $12.50 which includes the Tenax, a Touch-N-Flow applicator, filler bottle and some Micro Brushes.
http://www.nscalesupply.com/TEN/TEN.html
Mike
Mike, you crack me up!! I live in San Marcos…that’s the LHS I’m always complaining about!!! The people there just aren’t right. I call my location “San Diego”, cause it’s in San Diego County, and no one knows where San Marcos is. Anywho, thanks for the link buddy that’s a great deal!!!
My bad! [B)] [;)]
There’s a HobbyTown USA in Palm Desert and another in Santa Clarita. [(-D]
I do after looking at an online map. [:p]
Glad I could help my friend.
I love Tenax myself and may try others sometime, but I see no reason to try them since I like Tenax so well.
Mike
I noticed Woodys first reply, he mentioned something called MEK as the active ingredience in the glue.
Well I thought it would be a good idea to tell people what this is. MEK is Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone and it is HIGHLY toxic, it has a very small molecular structure wich means it can penetrate allmost anything like skin and latex gloves, it is believed to cause cancer but that is not for sure, so be careful with it.
Used in small amounts and with proper ventilation its no problem.
I’ve used Tanax 7 for sveral years and never had a problem with it. Never had a seam open up after glueing. I don’t use the touch & flow applicator, mine was more of a touch & clog. I apply it with a #0 or 1 pointed brush and let capillary action run it down the seam. Never used the Testors extra thin, but i do use their regular liquid glue for attaching parts like cockpit side walls, where Tenax won’t work.
I’m with Mike and Rick. At the present I see no reason to try anything else.
Ever since I was first turned onto Tenax, I’ve been in love with it.
Randie [C):-)]
Howdy, Heath!
Just saw this post.
I’ve never used Tamiya’s extra thin cement, just the regular “TAMIYA CEMENT.”
Translation of ingredients (from TAMIYA CEMENT):
Synthetic Resin (11%)
Styrene Resin Organic Solvent (89%)
Cyclohexene
Butyl Acetate
Acetone
Man, the writing on that bottle is tiny!
I don’t know if the ingredients are the same for the Tamiya Extra Thin Cement or not. I’ll check out a bottle at the LHS and get back to ya.
I don’t know about the Tamiya cement, but I use Zap-a-Gap. I bought some Tenex 7 and tried it a couple of times, and haven’t used it since. I’m not happy with it at all.
However if you e-mail your address I’ll send you my bottle. It’s still full.
I have been using Tenax7 for quite some time[^] Then I had to order something from Plastruct and when doing so I ordered their Bondene as I thought it would be the best thing for their material. Since receiving it I have tried it in place of Tenax7 and found it to be a stronger formula so you have to be careful how much you use[8D] It seems to set quicker with a stronger bond[:)] To apply it I also use capillary action but I apply it with a drafting pen which seems easier to control than a brush along a seam with no over ride to either side of the seam[:D]
Just thought I would add my[2c][:D]
Richard
As a follow-up to my previous post, I picked up a bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin Cement today. The ingredients are a little different than their regular cement.
Here’s the translation from the bottle of Extra Thin:
Organic Solvent 100%
Butyl Acetate
Acetone
There ya go!
Hope this helps.
LOL Thanks a bunch JHulk!!! I had hoped that I could find the ingeredients to the Tenax to compare, but so far haven’t had much luck!! Off to search some more…
Hey guys,
I have been using Tamiya Cement and Tamiya Extra Thin Cement and these are very good stuff.
The Tamiya Cement (regular one) is good for parts where the glueing areas are large or the parts to be joined are really heavy. This is a good gap filler, too.
The Tamiya Extra Thin Cement is very good for very small parts. The thin cement is also more fluid and excess cement around parts do not leave obvious marks. The thin cement is very ideal for A/C because A/C’s tend to have very thin and small parts to join. Also joints in A/C are (more often than not) required to be smooth and seamless. The Tamiya Extra Thin Cement comes with a soft and very thin applicator brush.
doesnt touch-n-flow kinda sound dirty or somethin’? maybe thats just me. i use ambroid and tenax 7 and like both. taste like crap, but welds and holds well. later.