Andrew:
A photo of ‘832’ has been posted as new here, perhaps you haven’t seen it… ?
Bottom of the page:
http://www.tiif.de/thread.php?sid=115683bb056ad6e2645315c61449c726&postid=3699#post3699
Where did you find the new photo (without a bin)? I’ve not seen it.
David
Thanks for the link david, I had overlooked that image. While its pure guess, I its an educated guess that the images of das reich 832 in march '43 is the same vehicle as das reich 823 (overwritten 832).
As for the pic showing the lack of stowage bin. It is actually one of the ones on the tiif.de site (on double check), its just a larger version I stumbled across. Size that I found, as you can see it look very much without the bin so I put it through an enlarging program (2nd pic) which confirms
While there does seem to be something there, it at least is not a standard stowage bin, look at the shape of in the shadow just below the rear (right) most officers hand its far from a flat surface. I could be wrong but it just looks wrong to me.
Site I got a pic from? Cant remember sorry was just trawling google images.
Andrew
I think that photo shows the same bin as all the others:
and it’s the Afrika bin, with cutouts at both ends; a smaller cutout at the left side.
David
David, yep I’m probably wrong but I stil say it looks fishy, might come back to that later in another post, but for now, we will say I’m wrong.
Anyhow finally got some airbrush time so I got the hull painted and a move on again with the build. Also the new PE stowage build arrived and happy to see that there’s stuff for the crew as well, eg medals & headphones (more on that when the time comes though).
Pic’s
First shows the upper and lower colours. I’ll admit while not the exact colours they are only a shade off as they were as close as I could get local (thanks David for the engine bay pic and information on your site, helped nail down the color choice). You can also see the additions I added to the side wall that were on the Academy kit.
Thats it for now, another update soon I promise.
Andrew
Engine bay and transmission test fitted. Had to do some modifers to the rear fire wall to make it fit as the Academy kit hull was slighty wider.
Here’s the transmission, you can see the modifcation in this shot I had to do to make it fit
Panzer, I’m new to this. Do guys model oil stains inside around the machinery? How do you finish the floor area where there is traffic I wonder? I have 1/35 Lee by Academy , “Burma Bang Box,” that is in need of an engine and an interior/exterior finish. Sure a lot of work painting all that ammo! Thanks for your post and pictures, Paul V Bangkok/Los Angeles
Paul, considering the Tiger was a resource hog when it came to breakdowns and servicing yes I do plan to add grease stains etc. While I’m not a mechanic I am more than familiar with mechanics and will be drawing on the knowledge and the few internal shots I have of Tigers to weather her internally. As to how and how much you will have to wait and see (I will be posting pics of finished results and description on how)
Andrew
Hey my name is chad connolly i have built 823 for AMMS australia i have alot of documentation on this tank from books to real info sent from friends in deutsch land.
Ok i found out some more info on this tiger and im lost for words as it seems to be one of Himmlers tigers from the Das Reich 8th Kompanie ss-panzerdivision. From what i was told my paint scheme might be wrong. I have one person telling me that their was a 823 but was lost while under Himmlers comand. He was later issued 832 which he sprayed 823 on. The division that had tiger no 832 wich Himmler marked 823 recived a new tank. Here are some photos of 823 with Himmler.
Wenn du die Informationen über 823 haben möchtest, dann sende mir eine E-Mail, weil ich gebeten wurde die Informationen nicht einfach so rauszugeben! chadconnolly@hotmail.com
As you can see my colour patens dont much up to well.
And here is the new 832
http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums/postings.asp?th=37628&p=1 this is my build of 823
Cheers
Chad Connolly
LOL sorry i can tell you used a translator for “Mein Panzer Ist Nicht Ihre Stutze” this dose not make sence. Im half german and the right way to say it is “Mein Panzer ist nicht deine Angelegenheit” wich means “my panzer is not of your concern”.
On a better note cant wait to see how your tiger turns out 
Chad
Problem Chad, thats not what I’m saying (or trying to say at least).
I don’t think I originally said that the officer being photographed will be leaning against the Tiger.
So if I understand right (I’m better at Japanese than German), “stutze” is the right word or translation for prop. What I’m saying is My panzer is not your prop/support/pillar, now pun/double entendre that with the other english meaning of prop, ie “stage prop” or in this case a photographic prop. Is this correct with this view of things or am I still way off?
Andrew
PS Yes I did use an translator, but only for the translation of “prop” to “stutze”. I know some German, not alot, but some.
A far as the other stuff goes Chad,
E-mail sent, thanks. Sounds interesting.
Scanned over the pages of you MM post, looks great, hope to give it a better look tomorrow.
And thanks for encouragement
Andrew
Lol sorry didnt mean to insult you with your german i should of said no such word as prop (stutze) in the german language. But never the less im looking forward to your finished model.
Ill reply to your email.
good luck
-Chad
Chad, go ahead and insult my german all you want, it’s crap I know, LOL. As for Stutze, I still get it on babelfish under english-> german for prop, my english/german dictionary has it (Langenscheidt’s German-English English-German Dictionary 1970, yes old) and it googles as well as a stutze/prop Deutsches/English? [*-)]
My understanding of the word Stuetze is that it refers to things like a prop shaft, prop wash etc. All mechanical terms. You’re looking for prop as in a film of photo prop. I don’t think such a word exists in German. Translators like babbelfish and google translate can’t be trusted for things like this. I prefer sites like www.dict.leo.org if I need to look up German words.
Erik
Geist, just checked dict.leo and even they translate Prop as Stutze (as in pillar ie a support)
So If my German Dictionary says it, dict.leo says it, babel fish says it and a google search says it is that enough? or what else does it take, maybe my german cousin, I’ll ask her next time I’m on facebook?
Andrew
PS just did a another seach on dict.leo and as “rest” translates as “stutze” as well, so I assume I am using the right word,
Prop or Rest translates as Stutze
So “My Tank Is Not Your Prop/Rest” Should be fine as “Mein Panzer Ist Nicht Ihre Stutze” Yes???
My main question with the title was the phrasing not the word translation
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How come this subject came back? I thought we had it discussed once… First proposal - everybody presenting his/her opinnion on this one does a “hand show” of his/her experience with German language. Let me kick it off - I’m 31 years old, learning German since I was 2, studied in Germany half a year and worked in Germany for three years. So let me be the “cousin” - I say it sounds OK. When a German - speaking person hears this title, without any further info, the first question would be something like “who is leaning agains a tank?”. So I guess this is exactly what the OP wanted, right? We also tried other versions, they had the downside of sounding like being said by an a$$hole, whereas this one has the vibe of a good-natured joke. So my proposal - let’s leave it like it is and concentrate on some modelling. Whaddya say? Thanks for reading and have a nice day
Paweł
yes german is dificult so many different ways to say one sentence. ^^ But ill help you with your build as much as i can as this is my fav tank !!! i have yet to recive your email.[*-)]
P.m. sent
Chad
I sent it via the pre listed email. (I just clicked the link)
I’ll PM my addy to you, see if that works.
Andrew
Well after this little enforced forum break (thanks FSM forums), Letsbefore anymore steam gets vented can we please let the title alone now.
back to the build…
Acording to pics from the Bovington Tiger the upper internal colour came to fininsh at the horizontal for tracks start, according to the Academy manual the upper internal color starts halfway between here and floor, and a image I found today suggests it started at the floor and only the floor of the crew compartment should be the blue/grey. So here I am with yet another dilemma. I might go with the Bovington Tiger version as it looks more striking, but the grease and dirt up the light colour walls in the pic found would be great weathering.
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Andrew
Haha I missed that. My bad.
Erik
well if a fellow german can understand then your title is fine. As for 823 i was told the inside is a light blue but the only thing i was not sure on was how high up the side walls the black floor bed went. I thought the toursion bars was enough and at a comp they dont judge the inside if they dont know its their 
But my advice would be to leave it the cream colour as just about every comp i have been in only judges by the outside. Just make sure you get the colours right my green was of. And i still have to do the 832 in black with the white painted 823 over the top as i have not found a stencile for it but ill get there. For some reason ex war germans dont want to give out to much infomation on this tank. So i had to go to great lenghts to get the info. I wounder why they keep the info on this tank quiet? maybe it was holding more then meets the eye. Any i have to photo copy my info with a scanner and then ill pass it on to you.