Greetings all. I have a number of F1 & WRC kits in the stash to be done in Marlboro guise, however need some thoughts on the correct red to use for each period. I know Marlboro change their colour to suit specific marketing considerations & eras.
I’ve got the current period worked out fine, as I know all Marlboro sponsored vehicles share the same red as Ferrari - pretty much been that way since MS joined them. At what point though, did they use the Fluoro red, or the darker, almost Italian red?
Marlboro-McLaren’s used fluorenscent red, shown on those McLaren Honda cars Senna was in.
What weirded me out is that on aftermarket Marlboro add-on decals for the Ferrari F189, the Marlboro logo used was in fluorenscent red (on three different set of decals I had), but on Tamiya’s original decals included in the F189 early version it had the darker red same as the body color.
Most Ferrari’s nowadays should be in Bright Red color intead of Italian Red though, same for the new Ducati bikes. Good god I just confused myself as well. -_-
Thanks archangel. Yep, I’ve got the current Marlboro red sorted, so my 2 Corolla WRC’s for Freddy will be the same red as the current Ferrari’s. Just curious as we go back in time. I thought the McLaren’s were Fluoro too, however looking back through some of my Grand Prix yearbooks & even the McLaren book I’ve got, they don’t all appear like that. And then, I’ve got the Audi Quattro from 82 Ivory Coast rally & the McLaren 2c & 3 to do. Anyone else with ideas?
Hey shaun, this may sound crazy but how about contacting someone dealing with the actual racing?
When I research color schemes, stripes, decals, etc… I sometimes collect info from forums, car dealers, sponsors (maybe Marlboro directly), race historians, etc…
Sometimes an email explaining what you are doing and why you need the info, sparks a quick reply. You’d be surprised how many people are willing to help someone out that is trying to create a small scale replica of their car. There are times that I don’t even get a reply though.
Shaun, the flouro red (TS 36) shows up very much like the current bright red (TS49) on photo’s. Saw it just the other day on somebody else’s completed model pics. Looks very different irl, though!
The McLarens ran in a fluorescent red for sure. But for more current Marlboro sponsored cars (be it Ferrari, Lancer, Pug or whatever) I’d go for TS49.
Thanks SeaBee, & everyone else. I’m all over the current thing now - got the colour done pat. I need more info on early/mid 80’s Marlboro red though. As I said in my earlier posts, I’m doing Michele’s '82 Ivory Coast Audi, which carried Marlboro colours. Were they using fluoro then, or was it more akin to the Italian red that you would do, say, the F189? OR for that matter, was it just plain old RED - not Italain Red or Bright Red or anything else?
SeaBee: you do a lot of WRC’s. Do you have any ref material on this car? I’ve got both Rally & Rally Cars, but neither have pics of this car.
Probably because Hannu was disqualified from the rally. Car companies have an uncanny nack of not putting their name to any photos of their products if there is any controversy.
Sorry Shaun, had a lot of catching up to do and did not read properly!
This is all I could find at short notice… and it doesn’t help all that much! Is it the correct one?
How does the Marlboro red on the decals look like? Looks like that’s the best guide - try and match the decals… The same red will have been used on the body of the car for sure! (Looks like it from the pic as well, anyways) Try and match the decal red against a Ferrari model to see which way to go from TS49… TBH, from the little visible on this pic, I’d at least not go for fluoro.
BINGO SeaBee. I knew either you or nicholma would have pics. That’s precisely the car - in fact it’s Hannu Mikkola’s car. The ST27 decals have the door placards in fluoro oddly, but I think all those little bits of signage did back then. The little Marlboro emblem on the airbox of the F189 is fluoro too. My only prob now is, trying to re-create that animal guard on the front of the car. Just when I thought I was out of the woods.