My wife is reading “Deception Point” by Dan Brown .In the book Brown discribes a mach 6 Aurora that replaced the SR-71, it’s 110 ft. long ,60 ft.wide ,shaped like a flattenened american football and is propelled by a pulse detonation wave engine that burns hydrogen. Is there such a secret plane ? Warning - this post may self distruct . CFR [oX)]
Dan Borwn is purly Fictional, although they are great, have me all. Just like the Dreamstar thought controlled Fighter.
RIght! Well said! That’s that! Completely fictional! Move along! Nothing to see here!
signed,
A government employee…
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Could he be talking about the SCRAMJET? I beleive that it achieved Mach 7 in a recent test. The shape sounds about right too.
Kurt
that book was written in the 80 i beleive. [;)]
The PDWE was the same form of propulsion as used by the Fi-103 Flying Bomb (V1) . Back in the early 1990s, Testors released a kit of the ‘SR75 Penetrator’ and XR7 Thunderdart’. This latter was supposedly th ‘Aurora’ Aircraft. With a triangular planform, such a craft could explain some of the UFO sightings over recent years.
I have yet to build either aircraft; the SR75 is HUGE!, nearly the size of Concorde, yet only carries a crew of 3
Deception Point was originally copyfrigted in 2001.
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O, i must be thinking of one of his other, older ones.
I think the prevailing theory now, and it’s just that, only another theory, is that Aurora was an abandoned R&D program, quite “Black” in the budget, that got put in as a line item by mistake in the publicly-released copy of the DOD budget that’s usually handed out to the Pentagon media (and the general public on request) each year. Walt Boyne is one who holds that theory, or that possibly it was a subsystem of the B-2 program, and he believes it never resulted in an actual airplane. However, no one, that I know of, has ever adequately discounted the famous “donuts on a rope” photo that wold indicate some kind of modern PDWE program that actually flew.
There were also the widely-reported sonic booms that were being picked up by seisomometers at the same time on the same day (Thursdays, I think, at 7 a.m.) a couple hundred miles west of California over a period months or years in the 90s before they stopped abruptly.
Also, the famous siting of the triangular-shaped craft seen from a North Sea oil platform in the late-80s, early 90s by a trained RAF spotter, the craft being chased by two F-111’s, wound up looking a whole lot like the next generation of RPVs we’re seeing now.
It’s always fun to speculate about what they’re up to out there in Dreamland. I think because we modelers and plain old buffs are always so wrong. Remember the famous F-19? And how about the Hi Tech Models kit of their speculative “Stealth Bomber”? Not even close, as it turned out, and even farther off than the F-19 “Stealth Fighter” released by Testors. Speaking of that speculative Hi Tech Stealth Bomber kit, does anyone besides me remember that artifact of early multi-media kit making from the mid-80s? (And what happened to that company, anyway, maker of PE parts that were make of solid titanium or something else that was impossible to cut? But they were one of, if not THE, first mass-market photoetched part companies. Technology, however, quickly passed them by.)
TOM
If you remember several years ago someone took a picture of strange contrails off the coast of California. It wasn’t a straight contrail but had puffs all along the trail. The USAF was quick to say it was nothing. The odd part is nothing showed up on LA radar.
Berny, that sounds like the “donuts on a rope” photo, though the one I’m familiar with was shot high above the Texas Panhandle, somewhere near Amarillo if I’m not mistaken. I wonder if more than one photo of it was was taken. It looked like the way cartoonists draw jet exhaust – a straight line going through a series of puffy circles, like, well, donuts on a rope. Unfortunately, the photo I’m referring to only showed the contrail, which maintained it’s shape even as it was dispersing farther back from the source. The aircraft was far too high to see and wasn’t even in the photos. Certainly nothing like a scramjet or ramjet would leave behind.
TOM
Tom
The one I am refering too was taken off the coast of California heading north west. It was like the donut on a rope photograph. LA radar did not have anything on their scope at the time. It was observed my hundreds of people. The AF said it was a cloud formation. Yea, right.
Pulse detonation is now more public with one being fitted to a Long EZ (?). Perhaps we will see more of this secret project soon.
There is a Hypersonic Aircraft It has been flying for over a decade now and probably won’t be unvieled to the public for probaly the next decade or TWO!!! I know this for a fact!
Why suddenly get rid of the SR-71. With no replacement., I dont believe running costs were the issue. But a replacement is more plausable. Also strategic reconnaissance is still the most valuble form of intelligence available to a commandeer on the field. Send a Global Hawk,U-2,RC-135. Whats the problem ,there all capable of real time int. Its the time factor if you have a aircraft thats capable of Mach6+.Then you get the information quicker thats why i personnely believe Aurora exists
I hope they don’t trash any sr-71 blackbirds with the gilatine At Davis Monahan!!! If I were Bill Gates I would rather have one or two of those BLACK BABYS then a learjet for bussiness trips!!!(did i spell the word right)[(-D] Or Have every single Blackbird on display in a museum or in storage incase we need them!!!
Erik … ( This posting has been edited at the request of Erik, who evidentially has never seen the old British TV series “The Prisoner”, and is very paranoid when some one makes a joke referencing this posting subject to what may happen if someone “discloses” secret information to the world).
New addition: Now Erik, chill out and go out and rent the DVD “The Prisoner”. The U.S. Government doesn’t make people disappear for posting the thiings that have already been discussed on this topic.
P.S. - I use to work in a unit that flew support for Area 51, and nothing has happened to me yet. Then again life is good in the “Village”. [:D]
Now go build a model and relax!!!
The Friend [8-]
When I was in school at Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, the Air Force would do a missile test from Vandenburg and there would be screw ball contrails. The atmospheric conditions had to be right for the contrails to form, but I saw them several times.
Sometimes they start out as a kind of corkscrew, then mutate into a donut on a rope shape.
Bill
You said most of what I was going to say. I think the black triangels are something else. I saw something a couple of months ago (I don’t recall where now) about speculation of what they are.
Apparently somebody back in the 50s or 60s suggested a design for an advanced blimp design. It was intended to move large numbers of troops to anyplace in the world in about 24 hours. The design was a giant triangular shaped craft with enormous gas bags holding it up. The engines were embedded inside the structure so it would be very quiet.
I don’t recall all the details right now, but the article speculated that the giant black triangles people have been seeing are this craft under test or something similar.
As far as hypersonic recon craft, I’m sure the US has something flying. I too don’t believe that the US would scrap the SR-71 program without a replacement on the shelf. The SR-71 was flying for several years before the DoD admitted it existed. The F-117 was operational for a while before it was admitted too.
Bill