Thats a good looking Sgt. York Kevin !
About the decision not to go forward with M247 , it was due to its overall poor performance , both in the outdated capabilities of the M48 chasis and in the poor performance of the radar tracking / electronics . It didnt help that on a display of the M247 in front of a group of dignitaries the guns immediately locked on the group , sending them diving for shelter ! No rounds were fired …but that aint no way to win a contract !
Sea
I see it now. That is some very reflective ribbon. Nice job on it.
Very nice…love the footprints. Now we see the very nice reflective tape soooo…what did you use for the lenses, always lloking for better ideas!
Yes, this is a colostomy form my military era. The guys on this devlopment program should have been shot!! The perfect example of a good idea poorly implemented.
Rounds Complete!!
I remeber the 60 Minutes episode that many believe was the final nail in this thing’s coffin. The Army set up a demonstration whereby the Sergeant York system would show how it could automatically shoot down a drone helicopter as the computer hooked up to the targetting radar was programmed to lock on to the whirling blades and commence firing.
On cue the drone popped up over a nearby ridge and the turret snapped around 90 degrees to the left from the drone and commenced to blow the ventillator off a nearby building as everyone dove for cover. When the commanding officer was asked if he considered this a successful test he said aside from a slight targetting error the system performed well within it’s parameters.
Don’t remeber who the 60 Minutes reporter was but might have been Morley Safer. Very nice build and paint job by the way!
Pat.
Thanks Carl. It was a lot of fun.
Yes, I do recall the failure of this system at one time hearing that the rotating ventilators were on the range latrine building.
IIRC the hottest thing about this kit was that it updated the M48 hull into an M48A5 with the later style tracks, air cleaners and headlights. As mentioned in the Vietnam armor thread, modern armor modelers were always trying to modernize available models into current armor.
Dang fine work Carl!
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And i’m glad to share my discoveries . I bought this stuff at a dollar store , I like shopping there for odds and ends , if it dont work out then there isnt much lost . Anyway it was in the party decorations section . Its fairly stiff and easy to work with . I attached it with Krystal Klear …that gave me time to get it in position .
[color=red]Thanks every one for your interest and comments !!![/color] [B]
For more reference here are some additional picures i took of the Sgt. York on display at Yume Proving Grounds …it has little different configuration on rear from the model .
Great looking vehicle, it should have entered service in 1955 not looking at 1980. SGT. York rolled over in his grave…
You did a wonderful job on it!!!
Great looking job! Love the weathering, dust, and boot prints.
There’s one in the tank museum in Danville, Virginia as well. Too bad the thing turned out to be such a massive boondoggle…
If you really want to read about a boondoggle read about the history of the M551. The real history, when I read that I wondered how the hell could Patton Jr and Gen. Abrams send that POS to Vietnam let alone Germany.
One hit and it turned into molten aluminum with the crew inside.
At least we only wasted a billion dollars on the York. Look at this POS called the F-35 they are sticking everybody with.
The funniest story for me is the search for a GPMG in the 1950s. We chose the M60 while most everybody else the FN MAG. Well when we needed to replace the M60 we did it with the M240…which is the FN MAG…LMAO!!!
Oh ya , ther’s been some of them boondoggles we tax payers foot the bill for , but something must be going correctly , i’m not speaking Chinese or Russian ! …[:#]
Gee, never meant to get in the middle of an arguement. By ‘boondoggle’ just meant it seemed like a pretty useful weapon system on paper, too bad it never worked out with the real thing.
It was doomed from the start; based on a flawed captured ZSU-27-4 Shilka that we studied.
We would have been better off going with the Gepard, but at the time, no lawmaker would have supported a defense bill that included buying a “not made in the US” vehicle. It wasn’t until the late 80s where we were allowed to buy foreign government’s equipment for use in the Army like the M240, Fox, IDF mine plow, etc.
The 240s came in on the M1 Abrams, I used to see the Tankers carry them all the time at Ft. Knox. The Marine tankers carried funny looking M60s.
I have very strong feelings about all the poor guys who died because of those idiots, like the ones who did not upgrade Humvees with extra armor and would not until pressured from the people of the USA. And the whole m16 fiasco in Vietnam.
So excuse me when my feelings about the dead and maimed soldiers come through all because of some idiot who made a decision based on lack of common sense or the money he’s putting in his swiss bank account.
Sorry, I still disagree with you. I have been active duty Army for over 17 years. I can attest that we have the best equipment in the world. It may take a while to figure out that in the long run, but we still do.
I can also speak about the HMMWV issue with personal involvement. Until we started having issues in Iraq with IEDs (which we had never faced before) in late '03 , there was no need for an uparmored HMMWV. Unfortunately, the enemy gets a vote and you have to adapt to his tactics sometimes. Once the threat was identified, we started producing uparmored kits. Once that happened, the kits were flowing into Iraq and being installed. Unfortunately, thats how it works. The HMMWV was never designed to be an armored patrol vehicle. It was simply a carry-all Jeep successor.
Your sour attitude is not appreciated here and truthfully detracts from modeling. It borders on violating the forum’s policies on politics. If you want to keep spewing bovine scatology about the military procurement system, do it some place else.
You have the right to disagree with me and I know the true story about the hummer and it’s history plus I was in the military too. I also know people who served in both wars.
I made a comment that they were idiots and I will say what I want to here.
Dude you do not RUN this place and You Are NOT the finescale model police.
I have seen this before from you and it makes me laugh, all forums have them and you’re it. Typical…
I’m so scared of you and your threats…NOT. I don’t care if they throw me off, it’s not that important. If this is that important to you, good luck with that…LOL.
I’ll have any attitude I WANT to, it’s called a free country as far as I know in the USA. Isn’t that why we served in the military? Freedom of speech…or is that not in the Constitution, something we protected by serving and something you and your types always seem to try and deny. YOU are one of the reasons that guy Sherman1111 left here and so many others have too. I have also seen you on other forums pull the same stuff. I watch your posts and know what you are about.
So that’s my opinion and I am entitled to it. I won’t question your knowledge about things, you do know a lot but you are just obnoxious and to me a joke[:P].
I want to show y’all something, this is the message I got from Sherman1111.
Thank you for sticking up for me, but my decision to quit the forum is a long time coming, the threads just repeat them selves in 3 month cycles and there a a click of posters that control the forum. I enjoy other boards where people scratch build original models and work with resin. this just seems to be people trying to raise there posts and it just gets old. as for the first guys comments, I wanted to call him a troll , but the thread would have been closed down and I would have been no better than him. even the magazine is getting stale and I can buy a lot of parts for what I pay for it. I spend most of my time on Aromarama, and a web site in Austraila, sorry for my spelling. I have also been censored for giving bad reviews on companys that advertize (sp), but you are beating your head against the wall with some of these guys. I am deleteing my short cut to this site and that is it. Hope to see you on another web site
Jim
I think for someone to write something like that there has to be a reason. I see it now too as I suspected. You have a little mafia here going on. I have seen it here and every forum on the internet. No wonder this place is basically DEAD and very few if any people post here. Welcome to the finescale forum armor mafia…
If anybody disagrees with y’all watch out!!! Like a school yard y’all stick together and attack, attack…like I have said before typical.