I also have a JR/La Flore kit that I was working on and am currently stalled at the moment. I am building this as (not really a conversion) a U.S. Frigate.
Here are a couple of pics that show it builds up pretty well.
Hopefully, I’ll be getting back to this one in the near future. I really need to finish this one (& my Bounty build) to get my bench clear (of ships at least)
Adrian
I took a few more pics to illustrate the difference between the shape of the decks between the JR/La Flore and Boullongne.
The previous pictures showed the close (to my eye anyway) similarities of the shape of the hull.
Once we view from over head the shape differences between the frigate & the indiaman become glaringly apparent.
The smaller scale represented the deck shape much closer. This is direct opposite from the hull shape which shows the smaller scale too short in both length & height.
Unfortunately, when the hull shape fits the scale of the drawing,the deck shape & size is way off. This is understandable considering one is a warship & the other a merchant ship. I didn’t realize the shape would be that different though.
The shape of the bow is much closer on the JR/La Flore and Boullongne than on the shape of the frigate from Boudroit’s other book. I included a couple of the JR/La Flore crewmen to show how close the scale is in comparison to the scale figure on the drawing.
Adrian
Hi, I am looking for any information about this ship as well. I am just beginning my research about our ancestors. My ancestors are the Hebert and Gaudet families. My 2X great grandmother was Azema Aucion (1838-1912), from the information that I recently found on the FamilySearch site. Do you have a ship passenger list for the Ville D’Archangel? I appreciate any information you can give. Laura
In my humble opinion, the French immigrant ship La Ville d’ Archangel might have been a fluyt, not the Bon Homme Richard. A fluyt is the design of a Dutch sailing ship that originated in the city of Hoorn in the 16th century Dutch Republic. It was designed to facilitate the maximum of space for cargo and crew . The fluyt was so efficiant, it could sail backward. Its shallow draft allowed the craft to venture into waters other heavy ships could not navigate.The fluyt design was so popular,other maritime nations of Europe copied for their merchant fleet.
An example of a fluyt is the Hector. A replica built in 2000 at Pictou, Nova Scotia. The original ship carried 189 Scottish immigrants to Canada in the summer of 1773. As of 2025, the Hector is operated by the Hector Quay Society, opened to the public.
Of the passengers on the Hector, mostly children died after the Hector departed Loch Broom in the west of Scotland. Small pox and other illness affected everyone aboard, which included families from the Highlands and Greenoch. For these Scots, it was the hope of a better life after the estates owned by Bonnie Prince Charles and his Jacabite army was defeated at Colloden in 1745 by the British.
The living conditions aboard the Hector was terrible, with children and babies crammed into the small Hector when she had to anchor outside the harbor due to bad weather. Many seasick passengers wanted the ship to return back to Scotland. In 2015, the living decedents of the Hector, both in Canada and America, gathered at Pictou for a memorial service dropping flowers into the waters where the original Hector anchored… ,
Wow, I can’t believe it’s been 13 years for this post. Not to mention it’s been years since I posted here.
I got the email on your responses and it prompted me to get on to respond.
Thanks for the interest in the post -
laura_morales. Yes I do have the passenger list for this ship and the other six that was with the La Ville d’Archangel. I’ll have to dig it up this weekend and scan it. once I get that done I can email it to you. I am an Aucoin also, from south central Louisiana although my name is spelled Aucoin instead of Aucion but I think the spelling differences are mainly a literacy issue of the times.
cheese02 - Thanks for the info. When I was researching back then, I found a reference to the ship being a flute which I had assumed to be French. With the spelling of it as fluyt and the Dutch connection it’s possible I missed a link that could have helped more.
Unfortunately I have since shelved this project along with quite a few others. Time restraints and health concerns took me away from building for quite a few years, Not to mention a shelf collapse over my workbench that crunched a 1/32 Trumpeter P38 Lightning pretty well.
best regards,
Adrian
laura_morales - I did a little poking around on the internet tonight and found the passengers lists online.
I used ‘seven ships passengers list’ in a goggle search and came up with a number of good sites.
The best one seems to be “Acadian-Cajun Genealogy & History”. Each ship has it’s own list of passengers.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Adrian