whats the best kit for a korean war canadian sherman? i have a feeling it’s one of the new dragon -e8 kits. am i wrong?
I do not know enough about the Canadian Army to tell you what would be a proper post war Sherman that they used, but the best Korean War era Sherman is one of the newer HVSS Shermans recently released by Dragon.
Which variant of the M4 did the Canadian Army use in Korea? You also may be looking at either Academy or Dragon’s M4A2 (76mm) as a starting point. The squadron book “Armor in Korea” has a photo of a Canadian 76mm M4 with the VVSS suspension, Steel double “I” cleat tracks, muzzle brake, older T-23 turret (split ring loaders hatch) and a dozer blade. From the angle of the photo, the engine deck is not visible in order to tell if its an M4A2 or an M4A3.
The Strathcona’s used M4A3 (76)W HVSS supplied by the US. Here is my source. HTH.
Hello ,
The Strat’s used Shermans like those " buff " described in Korea . They were diesels ( they had 2 diesel engines ). The exhaust , and the back deck layout , differed from the gasoline driven ones . I hope this helps . The most popular Strat Sherman is " Catherine " , we have one in Wainwright as a static monument , and a " Catherine " , at Garrison Edmonton , and she is driveable , she frequents the Remembrance Day Services in Fort Saskatchewan . These tanks have the oval hatch for the loader . I think the HVSS Shermans from Dragon represent gas driven Shermans . Happy Modelling !
Frank
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There is a great story about a maintainer who commanded a Sherman, I believe, who repaired another Sherman under fire…
I just can’t remeber his name…
Shame on me!..
MTF
Hello " Gun Tech " ,
In the maintenance hanger in Wainwright , they have a picture of a maintainer , who in WW2 , in Holland , did incredible deeds , while under fire . That is just the way you maintainers are . I still think that I owe beer to maintainers , that have got me " unstuck " , LOL. Have you ever run into a well respected maintainer nicknamed " Toaster " , he was in Ottawa , and he was the Leopard maintenance SME ? We were in Germany , and he came to Wainwright , while we were running a drivers course for civilian ( ex-military maintainers ) . He couldn’t believe that we were putting grease in the hubs of the road wheels , on the Leopard C2 , instead of oil .
Frank
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thanks for the info guys, armoured acorn isn’t very descriptive on the lower hull or engine deck. if i get it straight the sherman mk.4ay is an m4a3 (with hvss not the vvss) with a 76mm gun and muzzle brea?
Frank: I’ve heard buff’s scenario before – that Cdn tank units left behind their M4A2s (which is what you’re describing with the twin GM inline Diesels) and when then arrived in theatre, were supplied with tanks from US stocks – M4A3s, gasoline ones. I’ve never seen any photos of M4A2s in Korea (not saying that it didn’t happen) – can you illuminate?
I believe that if I were to do a Cdn Korean Sherman, I’d grab the DML M4A3E8 Thunderbolt as the base kit.
HTH
M4A2’s were diesels, right? We bought 300 M4A2 76’s right after the war. The were supposed to tide us over until the Centurion’s were brought into service. I guess it made more sense to borrow from American stocks than ship over our own.
Hi Frank!
I was not fortunate enough to meet him.
You’re right, that’s how we are. Gotta keep’em moving, gotta keep’em firing! [(-D]
Hello !
Thankyou for the info T26E4 and " buff "! They were M4A3E8’s . My assumption that Canadian Shermans in Korea , were diesels , was based on surviving examples in Canada , as it turns out , they were the tanks used in Canada until the Centurion was issued . The tanks in Korea were from American stocks , in theatre , M4A3E8’s . So thanks again guys , I learn something new everyday ! I have built few Sherman models , but I see a Strat ’ Sherman being built in the near future ! I will use the DML M4A3E8 . I guess the Strat’s deployed to Korea , with Wolverine TD’s , and the opened topped turret was deemed unacceptable , due to the nature of the fighting .
Frank
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P.S. " Gun Tech " , any truth to the story that " Arte and Marte " were a RCD Centurion ARV crew in Germany , in the ’ 70’s ? The most " notable " member of a Cent ’ ARV crew , was a fellow by the name of " Bung " Murdock , he was the CC.
Hi Frank! Arte et Marte (by skill and combat) is the motto of the EME branch. I can ask around if there was indeed a Cent ARV called that way in Germany, but will need time to get a answer. Sounds quite plausible though, as we are putting our colors and motto on almost everything that we get our hands on [;)][(-D]
Thanks for the info " Gun Tech “, I didn’t know that . Getting off the origional subject , about a Canadian Korea War Sherman . I read a story once about Brit Armor in North Africa , the tanks were loaded on tank transporters , with only the odd tanker about , they were being recovered to 2nd , or 3rd line maintenance, when they got hit by a mauranding band of German tanks , the maintainers manned the tanks ( they fought them from the transporters ), and literally fought to the end , inflicting losses on the Germans . I guess it made Rommel say " What , and by who ?!” So " Arte et Marte " , is a deserving motto .
Frank
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