This has probably been discussed before, but seeing as I can never seem to find anything in the forum by searching, I thought I’d just ask.
A friend and I were planning to do a King Tiger each, one porsche, one henschel. Dragon’s production turret hasn’t quite been released here yet, but mustn’t be far away, so I was curious on everyones opinions as far as
Tracks: Do Tamiya’s stack up? Are Dragons indys dodgy? etc, etc.
Zimmerit: Do any of them come with Zim?
Figures: Have they got any? Any good?
Detail: Comparable?
Fit: I assume Tamiya’s falls together, how about the Dragon?
Any other rants and raves encouraged.[:p]
Knock yourselves out, I always like hearing what you people think.
I don’t know anything about dragon, and I have seen on Tamiya usa, a tiger2 with zim on it. I built the ardennes version without zim-but it came with a loader, and two commanders
I am just finishing Tamiya’s Ardennes KT, It is a rebox of the previous KT but it includes early and late mantlets, motorcycle and messenger (along with the figs. mentioned by beav). The tracks are rubber band but they look great and the4 kit falls together nice.
Sorry no info on the Dragon.
From what I’ve seen, the Dragon kits come with the indy tracks, Tamiya’s doesn’t. Dragon’s kits come with pe grilles, Tamiya’s doesn’t. Neither kit is pre-zimmed. The Tamiya kits come with commander ad some crew, Dragon’s doesn’t. Dollar for dollar I’d go with Dragon. However, I haven’t built Dragon’s yet, and the Tamiya production turret kit is going together easily. Still, I plan on getting the Dragon Henschell version.
I bought the DML king tiger porsche turret and the indy tracks are horrible. It needs AM treads. Everything else is fine though, except it comes with no figures.[V] Tamiya King Tiger ardennes is outstanding! 3 Figures, 1 BMW bike, and rubber band treads! Really good. Both have no zimmerit with them though, but I prefer to do it myself…
Their first production turret kit has been released. But I understand there is another on the way that has the final turret. Don’t know when that’s due
Well just finished theTamiyas KT and it is a super kit the I have the Dragon henchel and porsche and they look awesome but have not built them yet, as for the ardennes KT mine has 2 motorcycles the bmw anddkw nz350. and the above that has been mentioned. That crappy about dragons indies though but 29 for dragon compared to 49 for tamiya you decide.
I can’t compare to the Dragon kit, but the Ardennes King Tiger I’ve got is very nice and as far as rubber band tracks go, I wish all kits came with the kind like the ones in this kit.
ive got three Tamiya Kingtigers and there great, im waiting for the Final Dargon Kingtiger (i was going to convvert a Tamiya Ardennes Kingtiger into a final one, im just waiting to see if theres anything missing on it)
I like Kingtigers[:D]
all this talk about Zimerit
lets have a Zimerit group build, all DIY zimerit[:D]
A grand idea. I’ll do a 1/35th scale sculpt of Johann Emmanuel Friederich von Zimmer, the man who invented the stuff – and I’ll use zimmerit putty to sculpt him, of course.
Zimmer made of Zimmerit. I like it!
I’ll use the expensive reference guide – Zimmer, a Man and His Anti-Magnetic-Mine Paste – the gripping three thousand page saga of how one man touched the lives of thousands of modellers, making them a great deal more difficult.
the dml king tigers are better than the tamiya ones in my opinion because the dml king tigers come with pe sets and indy tacks. the detail is ver ynice on both kits though.
Larry, which edition do you have? I found one of the first editions bound in dunkelgelb leather, but couldn’t afford it. I finally had to settle on a used paperback edition that had 10 or 15 pages missing out of the middle. It was right at the exciting part, too. I didn’t notice the pages were missing until it was too late to take it back! Really a heartbreak for me as I haven’t found one since! I hope you did better.
Well I just looked at them both side by side and the dragon has PH grills in kit and more detail on the turret topand the rear plate where the escape hatch is molded with a rolled steel look, the skirts where they mount on the hull are slotted with the bolt in a fixed postion the underside of the hull is alittle less detailed than tamiyas not by much the top side of hull has more molding on it such as latches and fittings the weld beads are alittle lacking on the dragon compared to tamiyas, tamiyas fit is awesome cant say anything on dragons…havent built it yet over all it is a tuff one as before dragon kit is almost 1/2 the price and if you add the PE grills to it add 10 more $$ and that is around 55$$.But if you are getting the ardennes Kt then I would go with it it has figures and a motorcycle non of dragons kits have figures.
