Jagdpanzer IV A-O FINISHED! Page 8 Final pics!

Well guys (and girl [;)])-- time to jump into another project here before the road takes me away again in March. [:$]

This is the Dragon Jagpanzer IV A-O. It’s the “curved hull” one. It’s a surprisingly nice kit, with PE skirts and a metal barrel if you want to use that. The only thing that it really needed was some zimmerit, and I’ve acquired some ATAK resin-sheet zimm for that.This kit also comes with a resin mantlet, gun housing, rear panel, and MG shields. Cool beans. [:P]

In detail:

For those of you who have never used this kind of SM zimm before, the first thing to do after assembling some of the hull is to sand down the zimmerit and get it ready for application by roughing up the back of it; otherwise, you might have a hard time getting glue to “grab” it. Here, I use a piece of coarse sandpaper to hold the resin sheet “zimm-side down”…

Then take another piece and sand the back of it. Don’t go nuts with pressure, but try to remove the gloss sheen from it.

Here’s the front of it—a lot of little pieces to put in place.

The zimm was applied with 5-minute epoxy putty, and later, the gaps filled with superglue using a precision tip. You can tell where there is no glue by the lighter color. You don’t need to thoroughly darken EVERY minute spot, but be prudent about getting the edges, where it may accidentally chip off. The curved hull required that I dip the resin zimmerit in some hot water) a coffee cup heated in the microwave for two minutes)to form the bend. Use tweezers, natch…

The problem of the curved sides holding a long piece of bent delicate resin zimmerit has been handled by giving you two smaller pieces of zimm to wrap around. The problem with this, however, is that it leaves a large gap. Hmmm… what to do?

Conveniently, this seam occurs right over the weld seam. I took some .040 styrene rod, ran a #11 blade over half of it a few times to give me a half-round, and used it to plug the seam. By slopping some liquid glue on it, I was able to then etch weld marks in it and simulate the weld seam. Not the optimal rendition of it, as I would have preferred the zimm without the seam, but in fitting the piece, it was either to fix it here or be 2mm short of zimm on the rear hull–and s**till a pesky seam to deal with (albeit not as large perhaps?)–and that would have been much more annoying to fix. At least, in a way, this makes the zimmerit coat look appropriately-thin with the weld seam “showing through”.

The muffler was dinged up a bit by holding it next to a flame. (SO old-school! [proplr]). In doing so, the straps and outlet got a little deformed, so I replaced them with strip and rod.

Next, the rear panel was super-glued on.

The front has a lot of little pieces that you have to carefully trim and apply, I spent a good hour test-fitting and trimming and chipping the zimm pieces to good effect, in order to let the hatch outlines show up. They wouldn’t have zimmeritted over the hatch outlines-nor covered up the screw holes that provided access to the interior transmission housing. I drilled them out from the rear and then cleaned them up from front. I’ll later put in a plate behind this to make a proper “screw hole”.

And lastly for now, the sides of the hull–again, a nice job on the zimmerit covering by ATAK here.

Well, that’s it so far—I should make deent progress on this today, as most of the zzimm-work is done, and what is left is fairly simple. Should have an update by tomorrow or so. [:D]

Sweet, another doog WIP! I have a set of Cavalier zimm that I haven’t used yet so I will be taking note of you application technique. Zimm looks like it went down very well!

Looking good, doog.

The application of the resin zim got me thinking of how some other glue products would work. I’ve never tried them, but maybe a spray glue in a rattle can and once attached, a final bead of liquid super glue to the edges for a definite hold. Another would be two coat rubber cement, though this would likely result with an added thickness.

regards,

Jack

Great to seeing you back at the bench of late Karl. Always enjoy your WIP’s. I have always had a soft-spot for the Jagdpanzers and this is no exception. If I’m somewhat correct, this was just a prototype, or did a few get into combat?

Hey doog,

!http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4845342464805214&pid=15.1

Looks like you’re back with a vengeance.

As you’re probably aware you can simulate those muffler dents with various shaped mini-files that would enable more precise cuts and less “collateral” damage to repair.

Here are the results that I got on my BT7 Here.

I posted this here mainly for all the “newbies” that have signed on recently.

Nice to see you back at full throttle at the bench Karl! Atak is my go-to source for zim these days, love their sets. Good progress with the zim application as well as all the other little detail treatments. [B]

Looking good doog I’ve never tried that Atak zim but I’m sure it’s alot easier than making it with putty

Sweet WIP build Karl! I was really enjoying the 1/72 armor you’ve been doing lately, but this one looks like a real beauty! I’m eager to see how you weather this Jagdpanzer, with all that zim. Will the oil dot method still work on this? I think Bill did it on one of his recent builds, going along the “grain” of the zim. Anyway, I’m going to follow this WIP very intently!

Nice project Karl,should be a good one

Thanks, guys—Eric, just make sure you epoxy the FLAT side of the zimmerit panels–believe it or not I epoxied the wrong side of one while watching Supercross on TV today! Luckily, some quick work in the sink with a toothbrush saved my piece! [:O]

Thanks, too, Jack–I tend to stick with epoxy and superglue. I don’t want to take any chance of it coming up post-paint and weathering. I think the rubber cement would definitely add too much depth to it.

Tigerman—I appreciate that! As far as I know, one of these was used by Panzer Lehr, I believe,and the other was a training vehicle. I’ve never seen actual combat photos of one where you couldn’t say that it was just training photos. [^o)]

Steve—hey thanks! Cool Smiley! And feel free to post the actual photo of that masterpiece you finished! I don’t know if I saw that one before? WOW! It’s magnificent, as is all of your fabulous disasters! Thanks for the tip on the file damage! [:)]

Bill–thanks, man! I actually thought of you when I was posting this–I thought “Bill will like this” lol, because I know how much you use this ATAK stuff! [;)]

Clint–hmm. You know, I’m not sure? Sometimes making zimm with some old razor saw blades can almost be easier depending on what you’re working on? The nasty part of doing that is trying to do things like the rear panel of Pz IV’s, or the bottom hull. This set was actually time-consuming to apply and cut out. On something like a Tiger or a Panther, the saw blade method is probably just as easy.

Ernest–thanks buddy. Good to know you’re following along! I dunno if I’ll do the dot thing on this? I may just try something new, or see how that “darklighting” thing I did on the 1/72 builds works out? I haven’t really decided yet. But it’s going to get “the Treatment” for sure! [8o|]

Back to the bench for me! Update tomorrow, guys! Thanks again, all! [B]

Hey Doog [:)]

Nice man… and I don’t just mean the build [;)]…[Y]

tread [H]

doog,

I was thinking you saw it…?

if not, click the pic below for the BT7 thread.

!http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/BT7/BT-1.gif?t=1251826099

following :wink:

Neat! I’ll be watching…

Karl the styrene rod weld bead does work well but have you thought about using Gunze Sangyo Mr. Dissolved Putty for the weld bead once applied you can stipple it with an exacto knife blade after about an hour. That way you don’t need to carve styrene rod and accidentally slice your fingers.

Hey Tread! Thanks for stopping in, man! Good to see you here again! [:D]

Steve–oh yes, now I remember that epic build! What a great model! Truly a “Master-piece”! [:D[

Mikey–I haven’t tried that Gunze poduct, but thanks for the referral. I’ll keep an eye out for in the next time I"m in an LHS! [8-|]

RBaer and Owl----glad to have you along! [{][}]

I’ve got a quick update:

I’ve got maybe 80% done—I’ve got the gun on/in, and have started adding details. I also took the time to remind myself how much I hate using PE tool clamps and fittings! [bnghead] Honestly—they drive me bonkers but I wanted to have some sweet detailing up front to catch your eye.

OOPS! Sorry! I accidentally deleted these pics from my Photobucket page! More pics in later posts!!!

I’m kicking around the idea of doing some more on the back deck, but it all depends on how long my patience lasts. I also built a spare track rack before noticing that one already came in the kit. [whstl] Honestly, I have o stop watching Supercross while I"m building…lol

The kit does give you a metal barrel, but I’m not all that keen on metal barrels; I just used the plastic part. STill have some detailing to do on the rear deck and hull…

I also did some proper detailing on the commander’s hatch here-it needed a corrected hinge, a circular plate around the periscope with bolts, and a wooden head pad. I’ve also just started detailing that other small binoculars hatch as well.

That’s it for now. I should be able to get a lot more done tomorrow if the PE tool holders cooperate.

Thanks for looking in, guys and girl! [Y]

It look’s looking great already and would have caught my eye even without PE.

I really like the look of that zim especially over the MGs

Looking good doog! I feel ya on those tool clamps and such but the detail they add is so worth it!!

Thanks, guys! I appreciate ya’ll looking in!

Eric–yes, I must agree with you; they do add “something” to the build—I think it’s the knowledge from other modelers that you actually would spend the time to craft these devilish little monsters, lol!