Interior color

Modeling Subjects Armor
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I know this question has been asked many times but does anyone know the interior color of German halftracks? Specifically the Opel Maultier with the Nebelwerfer on top?

Thanks guys

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I’m no expert but I’v been researching this a little lately and I’d say go with an off white or a light beige.Just my [2c]

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The exact color is Panzer Interior Buff and is offered in the Model Master 2 line of paints. Also you should be aware that in open topped halftracks, the floor, at least, was painted to match the exterior base color

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This should help ya’ with any future reference: http://www.panzerworld.net/colours.html

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I have several color photos of the interior of the Panzerwerfer auf Maultier at Saumur. The walls are Elfenbein (ivory) and the floor is Red Oxide Primer. The MM Panzer Interior Buff is a good match for this color. Polly Scale makes a Red Oxide Primer in their model railroad line-up of acrylics.

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Thanks for all your responses guys.

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I have reference pictures showing the inside of the late war Maultiers painted the “Panzer yellow” !! Toward the end, I think they used whatever was available ! That’s why you see photos of some King Tigers painted the pre 1943 dark gray !!

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hey ygmodeler let us know howthat kits goes i have one in the pile and i’de be interested to hear how it builds, thanks and gl with it.

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I would like to see your references on the Tiger II in dark gray. I have never seen a T2 in this scheme. Both Tigers in Combat 1 and 2 don’t seem to have these photos, nor do any of the 12 books concerning the Tigers on my shelf? Please share the knowledge…

Thanks,

Steve

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I’ll have to dig thru the “library” to find 'em. Will do ASAP

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It’s Definately Italeri I’m almost done. I’ll give the shabang when I post final pics.

Thanks every one. I decide to close it up because there just wasnt enough detail inside and I need to finish before Jan. 15 i think it is.

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Tiger IIs in Dark Grey…hum…where have I seen that before?

Let me guess, it’s the lovely (choke) grey with yellow spotted Bovington Jagdtiger raising it’s ugly…and incorrectly…painted head again?

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Apparently,… I feel your pain, we seem to never get rid of the panzer gray Tiger B mythology. So far I have read in threads recently posted that all Ardennes T2’s were in the hard edged scheme (despite the pre battle pics and video showing both soft and hard edged patterns), also, the correct interior color for German armor is absolutely Panzer buff? etc., etc…

I’m sure it is easy to mistake red primer, or unpainted gun tubes as appearing to be “gray” in murky late/post war photos. The argument that the Germas were desperate and were using “whatever they had left” is disputed by very accurate references on the last vehicles, (T2’s)produced…but…

… the beat goes on…

S.

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Nope, this is a picture taken in Berlin in the "final days.

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Oh, did I forget to mention it’s a COLOR picture ??? I’m not saying this became standard practice at the end of the war, but there was DEFINETELY one tiger II that was painted in Panzer gray.

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In the back of Tigers in combat I it says that there is some evidence to suggest that panzer gray was used on the large vehicles at the end of the war. seeing as how Germany was low on just about everything at the time it seems like it would be very possible for a panzer gray kt to have existed. my 2 cents

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I have heard the rumors for 40 years… Be the first to lay claim to this holy grail of photographs. Bring on the photos.

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Is this wrong?

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It is not Panzer Grey. It isn’t even as dark as the field grey uniforms worn by the crew member, besides, look at the turret roof and the hatches, they are plain old Dark Yellow. A highly diluted and very diffuse overspray of Olive Green is what I’m seeing, plus a lot of dirt/dust. The gun barrel is a replacement, still left in it’s original grey lacquer paint. This special, heat-resistant grey lacquer isn’t as dark as Panzer Grey is either.

Here is an early Tiger photo in color;

The area around the hull MG looks quite grey, yet near the binocular gun sight, it is very plainly dark yellow with green overspray. The whole photo is rather under-saturated in respect to yellow. Look at the ammunition being loaded. They are HE rounds, yet one can just barely make out the bright yellow of the projectiles. I suspect this same problem is occurring in other color photos of this era as well.

Both of these color photos are well known and have been in circulation for many years. If there was any consensus that these were evidence of the late war use of Panzer Grey, an established author would have seized upon these photos as a rare find and expounded it at length, this has not happened.

There is also the mythical color photo of the “Panzer Grey” Mobelwagen, which no one can seem to find. Oddly enough, there is a Panzer Grey Mobelwagen sitting at the museum in Saumur. Does anyone believe this to be original paint?

Along with color problems inherent with deteriorating film dyes, developmental differences, etc., is our own perception of color, as this link clearly demonstrates;

http://www.echalk.co.uk/amusements/OpticalIllusions/colourPerception/colourPerception.html

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Regardless of Swartzgrau colors on Tigers (I’m pretty sure the early’s were in grey, but I have never seen a pic of the T2 in a grey scheme), I was always under the impression from research and conventional belief that the interiors of open top vehicles in German service were painted the exterior base color. Much like the interior of the hatchs.

Dunno, I hate color debates.