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i want to thank you all for the info that i have just spent 60 hrs reading . lol you guys and gals are a walking libary.
to some i hope that i could help and to others thanks for your help. still have never till now have heard of an f4 call a rhino just a jack named that. lol also hope to learn how to get pics onto here as i have a ton of pics from my navy tour of 28 yrs.
again thanks
ps still have about 40 days to read more

Never heard an F-4 called a “rhino” myself during my 9 year tour with the Navy but,
I was in the VQ and VP family. A rhino jack I’m familiar with. We had to use them
to jack up the nose of our P-3’s to get them into our hanger at Brunswick.
Ray

I think the Rhino name was an Air Force thing, although we never called our E models that. We called them “pigs”, It was a term of endearment. If someone that didn’t work on them called them that, we got mad. The F-4, America’s proof to the world that with enough power, a brick can fly.

The way I heard it, it was a barn door [:)] I think it was in the movie Red Flag. Don’t get me wrong, personally I think the F-4 is one of the greatest planes ever built.

When I was with the 24th NORAD Region we call them “Fling Bricks”.

I believe ANG pilots were responsible for the Rhino tag, referring to the ugly protrusion under the radome. These C and D models were still in Reserve and ANG use into the 90s.

If you have the pictures saved to your computer, head over to www.photobucket.com and then link them here :slight_smile:

If not well, bummer… (I love seeing photos, so shoot me :stuck_out_tongue: )

Who came up with “Double Ugly”?

Every time I heard of that radome being refered to it had nothing to do with Rhinos, it always refered to as a certain part of a male donkey.[;)]

Here’s another term used on the F-4 during the Vietnam years: The Two-Holer. I believe it started with the fighter pilots’ disdain for flying the two-seat Thud in the Wild Weasel mission, using a non-rated guy in back. That attitude changed quickly, however, wyhen the Weasels started saving butts by the busload.
But the term of derision went on to describe any plane that had a pilot and an extra crewman specialist, fighter pilots being the way they are.
I have also heard airline pilots call the Boeing 727 the “Three Holer,” for obvious reasons. For you younger, city-bred folks out there, a “two-holer” is an outhouse with two seats in it. It was, I have read, considered a status symbol by mountain folk in the old days, since the truly poor had to rely on a one-holer.

In the RAF they were usually called just ‘Tooms’ , but I also heard rhino used a few times.
Pig was usually reserved for the Harrier GR5 ‘plastic pig’, with the GR3 called the ‘leaping heap’ - this was in’88/9 and they were pretty old with '06 the worst of them all.

I was always under the impression that only the F-4G was reffered to as a “Rhino”.