Great, now when I see that ship, instead of thinking national pride, I’ll be thinking pizza.
The Coast Guard crest is replaced with a picture of a domino andthe words “Coast Guard” are replaced with “1-800-CALL-DOMINOS”
Thanks jtilly for that mental picture.[:D][yuck]
He he…
For what it’s worth…I like the stripes. 
Regards,
Scottrc - No, no, no. Replace the anchors and shield in the middle of the Slash with a picture of a pizza - preferably with pepperoni and anchovies.
This discussion is going downhill in a hurry.
If the opinion of a Coastie whos is proud to have been one matters, the model looks great the way it is, excellent craftsmanship involved there. As for the stripe It is part of the coast guard now, and beeing stationed on a white icebreaker, it provided a little welcomed color in a white world. Not only that it kinda grows on you after a while [:D]
jim
Jim,
White Icebreaker huh? Wouldn’t be the one too big to get out of the lakes would it?
Or is it one of the smaller “experimental” types, one black as I recall. . .
The red used in the stripe on cutters and boats,( and the red used on icebreaker hulls, those that are red [:-^] ) is redder than the orange used on aircraft and Zodiak/Avon boats.
I realize that my memory is suspect, but I recall being ordered to stencil “COAST GUARD” on all our rescue equipment after the press kept calling CG vessels and aircraft "US NAVY"shudder during the Muriel Boat lift of 1980. It wasn’t long before the words “US Coast Guard” began to show up to replace the simple “Coast Guard” the Canadian CG uses on their aircraft. . .at least on one side!
As for advertising space used on the sails? I doubt you would ever find GO NAVY, maybe GO AWAY NAVY.
Don (retired Coastie)
hey Don,
Yes it was the mackinaw (WAGB-83), and yes the stripe is red, while the wingey things are more orange red, right along with the RHI’s and stuff. They do have some IB bouy tenders up there, but they dont amount to much help. I saw a thing on the TV acouple months ago, They painted my boat RED ,Im gonna miss the old white gal [:(!], If I remember right the canuks paint there lake boats red too.
jim
DOH!
jtilley, I stand before you humbled at your memory and my lack of same.
Looking back through old photos I see a shot of the USCGC Eagle, shaking her sails out as she heads out from New London in September of 1977. . .the stripe is there as are the words COAST GUARD.[bow]
dkmacin - with regard to my memory, you’ve provided an antidote to the ever-increasing evidence of how rotten it is. The other day one of my students from last semester came to see me in the office and I had no idea what his name was.
I’ve been told many times that as people get older their memories divide into two distinct compartments: the one containing clear-as-a-bell recollections from years back, and the useless one dealing with the past few weeks. I can’t remember stuff that happened three days ago, but I clearly recall hearing, on that day in Rhode Island in 1976, listening to the radio and hearing some newscaster in a helicopter announce: “Here comes the U.S. ship, the beautiful Eagle! I can see the red and blue stripes on the hull clearly, even from this distance!”
Another vivid memory from a few years back. I had outpatient surgery one Friday to have a stone removed. (Let’s drop that subject.) The following Monday a student - a nice young lady, and extremely courteous - came to see me with a trivial question about something or other. I answered the question and she got up to leave. On her way out the door she stopped and said, “Dr. Tilley, by any chance did you have surgery in the hospital last Friday?” I said, “why yes, Ms. So-and-So, as a matter of fact I did. Why?” She looked incredibly relieved, and said, “Oh, thank goodness! I had an operation last Friday too, and when I was waking up in the recovery room the first thing I heard was the sound of your voice, and I thought I must have died and gone to hell.”
Ever have one of those moments when you KNOW you picked the right profession?
Myself I like the stripes.For me it sets it apart from the other countries tall ships.In 2000 I was at New London Ct. for OPSAIL. The Eagle led all the other ships into the harbor.All the people were going crazy when they saw the Eagle and they were able to recognize her because of the stripes.That day The Sagres II, Cisne Branco,Esmeralda,and the Juan Sebastian De Elcano all sailed in.All beautiful ships but the Eagle with her stripes was unique.Just my two cents worth.
Rod
Ugh.[yuck]
Just saw the Mac cutting in the straights. . .red how could they? With the black Bistol Bay in company. . .
AND I got an offer to help restore the Taney, the only Pearl Harbor ship left. . .wonder if they will slap the stripe on her?
Don
The color of the USCG stripe is actually a red, but it does have a little orange mixed in. Testor’s line of Marine acrylics has a “USCG red” which is this color. It is not the same red-orange color as found on modern helicopters. The red is used on the cutters and boas, and on the fixed wing aircraft. The red-orange used on the HH-65 helicopter is a little bit redder than “international Orange”. Testor’s also has USCG red-orange in their Marine acrylics line-- it is a little bit redder than Internation Orange.
FYI, the Imai kit of the Eagle isn’t bad- but the Minicraft version is better. All th eImai kits I’ve seen were waterline models, and used ot sell for close to $20 retail. When Minicraft released the kit, they added a lower hull, so you could build the model waterline or full hull. Also, the Minicraft version was about half the retail price.
The Eagle kit is a better representation of the ship as she appears now than the old Revell kit, which has the ship as she appeared int he late 1950s. One of tthe shortcomings of these kits, though, is that they have “Aztek stairs” for the stairways on the weather decks.
I wish someone would make a generic set of PE details for these nice little 1/350 scale tall ships. I’m thinking a set with ratlines, railigns, stairs, and other bits would be nice…
Rcboater - I second the request for a photo-etched set of sailing ship details. Here’s another idea: photo-etched shroud-and-ratline assemblies. A designer who knows what he’s doing should be able to make some nice ones.
I like those 1/350 kits. Just remember that the hull of the Eagle kit actually has the proportions of the Gorch Fock I, and is therefore a little short for the Eagle. On 1/350 that difference doesn’t amount to much, though.
thats a very nice lookin’ build.[tup]
Nice looking model!
I was lucky enough to visit the Eagle when she visited Philadelphia several years ago.
The U.S. Coast Guard began to apply the stripe to its’ ships and aircraft in 1967. I believe that was also the year the service was moved from the Deparment of the Treasury to the Department of Transportation.
(The USCG is now part of the Department of Homeland Security.)
The Canadians paint all their boats red.
We had to “escourt” the Martha L. Black back from the Bering sea when she dropped a screw. The John A. Mc Donald was with us too, great fun and they had the beer!!
Don
Here is what I found out a few years ago from the CG historian’s office.
The stripe was originally recommended by the design firm of Raymond Loewy/William Snaith, Inc. in 1964 and was adopted service-wide on 6 Apr. '67
The colors are as follows; (from CG paint manual dated 1983)
Blue - FS15182, Red - FS 12199, White - FS17875.
Ice-breakers painted red (FS 11105 ) had a white, blue, white stripe using the above numbers for white and blue. The big white ones hull were painted 17875.
Boot top for ice breakers and the big white ones were black (17038).
Black vessels used red boot top (11105).
The stripes are canted at 64 degrees just in case your wondering.
The painting of the smaller boats changes somewhat from this.
Andy, former CG aviator (enlisted), but I still like the boats!
PS International Orange is listed as FS12197.
What did you fly in Andy?
My resume:
DM HU16E
LM/DM HC131A
FM HH52A
FM HH65A
RS HH65A
(BTW, We always used Testors International Orange for touch ups on the HH65A in ALPAT)
Don
Don,
I got my wings in the HU 16, and also flew on C-131, (Miami) and C-130 (E-City)
The first time I ever made a landing in the HU 16 the seatbelt came off in my hands as I was snugging it down. I was a little bit nervous. I flew as avionicsman (radio-nav, and radio on C-130). By mutual agreement, I departed the CG in '80.
In '88 I had forgotten why I had terminated my enlistment the first time, so I joined the reserve. I was part of the aviation guys in E-City then transferred to Ft Macon a short time later. I still remember the stares I received the first day I reported wearing my aviationed badged uniform complete with A/C wings to a small boat station. I think they are still laughing. It didn’t take long for me to remember why I had gotten out in the first place so after 3 years I quit again. I am 3rd gen coastie and still have a love/hate of the CG.
Andy
Before I go and anger some. . .
I was also on the USCGC Evergreen WAGO 295 Oceanographic Ice Breaking Bouy Tender on International Ice Patrol. . . but I got smart and went aviation, where after I got helo qualed I went back to the boats.
Much better to be part of the helo crew though.
I retired after 20, got too old to keep up with the 19-20 year olds that uurah’d the Rescue Swimmer part and hated the actual rate.
Don
Kids, what you gonna do!