Got a start on another kit,as if I need to.Dragons Tiger I initial ,some turret interior stuff from Verlinden. A drilled and pinned engine cover,and of course other things that can be seen through open hatches .
LOL. I thought you were going to announce the release of another Tiger.
Hey we always enjoy a good build, and this shaping up to be one. Are those indie tracks?
Looking great! [Y] You have caught my attention… it has been a while since somebody did a WIP on Tiger.
Tigerman, those are the kit indie link tracks. The lower hull and the rear plate are pretty much completed ,primed and a base coat applied.
Deafpanzer, thanks for stopping in. I will try to update and keep the pic flowing in.
I think those are DS-100 tracks.
I thought it was a release too.
Looks grreat… living up to your screen name.
Jeebus,these are the indie link tracks from the kit #6252.
Wingnut ,thanks for stopping in also.Sorry no new Tiger release here,do we need another?
Now a question for all those out there with beter ref’s. than mine #1 were or can an initial Tiger be fitted with sheet metal exhaust gaurds ? #2 what about the sheet metal fenders? #3 can the spare track stowage be up-dated to the side of the turret?
Now a couple more pics.
Ah, nope![;)]
very nice start
I just started the same kit. I have the torsion bars and the rear hull done. Alot I know LOL. I got that much done then thought I want an interior (hatches will be an open due to diorama I have planned). So I’m waiting for an academy tiger I picked up cheap (to kit bash its internals into my dragon) to arrive.
I will be watching t his thread well
Andrew
Konigwolf, glad you stopped in interesting to see how your kitbashing works out. I’ve read a couple of reviews about the Academy kit. Hope you start a thread.
Detailfreak, I have all the photos uploaded to photobucket was waiting for the academy kit to arrive so there wouldnt be the break but might add it sooner.
Andrew
Great start detailfreak, I never knew what to do with the very sparce interior that Dragon provides, your detail set is a wast improvement.
To your questions;
Dragons # 6252 has a number of unique features:
The track design with the right track beeing a mirror image of the left.
The Pz III stowage bin or the 2 side mounted stowage bins.
What is not there is:
The heat deflectors and mud guards where added as standard features for practical reasons later in the production run, but some repair units added them in service.
The first design mud guards where added in Setember 42, the heat deflectors in January 43.
The picture is from the Bundesarchiv and shows a Tiger I from Schwere Heeres Panzer Abteilung 501 in Tunisia.
As you can see the Tiger has the air cleaners(November 42) assembled aswell, you will not fing these in the kit.
The sheet metal fenders covering the front are the early type, I think the instructions tells you to add them.
The only reason they would be missing is if they had been ripped off.
I would advice against assembling spare tracks on the turret side since the mounting brackets only where introduced later.
Already looking forward to your next posting [:P]
Svenne
Looks like you’re dressing this one up nicely, making the hatches workable is a nice touch. Looking forward to more! [Y]
Nice, thanks for sharing detail
DF- nice start to this kit. I know some armor guys groan about more Tigers, but I for one have an affinity for the beast. Maybe because I haven’t inundated myself with them?
Anyway, I’ve picked up Dragon’s Stalingrad early Tiger, and although it may be months to years until I dig into it, I’m excited about it all the same. Years ago I bought Tamiya’s early Tiger (the 1972 mold), and as I went along with the build (while collecting 6-8 books on the vehicle) and discovered the lacking/inaccurate detail, I somehow felt as if I needed to replace or add most items. It’s been sitting on the shelf for about 15 years with considerable new surface detail along with a 40% complete drivers station. The things I get myself into…
About your questions: initial/early Tigers had both sheet metal fenders and rounded exhaust guards. If I remember correctly, the rounded exhaust guards were changed to a more angular shape- like a triangle with the top cut off- beginning either late in the early model production run or for mid-production vehicles. Both the fenders and exhaust guards were regularly damaged in battle, and if the effort was made to repair or replace them, crews apparently gave up at some point as many photos show vehicles with these items missing. Eventually they disappeared from production altogether. As for spare track links on the turret, one of the links below will show a photo of an early tiger with mounting brackets on the turret but no track links. I don’t recall this being a common practice on the initial/early models- the thing for me that stood out were the smoke grenade dischargers which were phased out somewhere between the early and mid-production runs. It’s at this point I recall seeing more spare track being mounted on the turret. Hope this helps; I could go dig through my references if you need anything else.
#1 were or can an initial Tiger be fitted with sheet metal exhaust gaurds ?
#2 what about the sheet metal fenders?
The modern term “initial Tiger” refers to the first 9 vehicles that went to Leningrad. Dragon’s kit addresses them only. They were lacking a lot of parts seen on the later Tigers.
Before the exhaust guards appeared, the Tigers got: the Feifel air filter system; reversed left-side track; a spade at the front; side fenders; folding front and rear mudguards; a turret side hatch; the S-mine system; and some other details that I could describe.
#3 can the spare track stowage be up-dated to the side of the turret?
They came along later, after even more changes.
FYI: the beams under the roof are not exactly where Verlinden puts them.
See http://tiger1.info/EN/RoofBeams.html
David
Thanks for the information david [Y]
Andrew
David - Ahhhhh, now things drop together tiger1.info is your site, I found it a couple of weeks ago, book marked it righ away, nice site.
Andrew
I went back to my library and did a little more research, and found I should have left the questions to Svenne and Byrden…thanks for the info guys, and my apologies if I caused confusion about when the side fenders/exhaust guards appeared. I did find it interesting that at least some Tigers were sent to Leningrad without these components. Nice Tiger I info site, David!