how to simulate flames

what would be a good way to make flames for a burning vehicle???

To be honest Chris … I’ve never seen anyone effectively replicate flames. I’ve seen many ways attempted, but it never really looks right. Personnal opinion of course.

I’ve been pondering this for awhile and was trying to think of a way of hiding a bright mini light ( flourescent?) or lights in the tank shell and turret…then forming tinted, transluscent , yellow and orange resin flames …and using cotton ( painted grey ) as smoke swirls…Guess I’ll keep pondering!

Regards, Dan

hmm…

I have seen some ornamental lamps designed to look like torches where a semi-transparent cloth shaped and painted like flames are installed around the bulb. A fan is also located below the bulb blowing upwards. When the fan is activated and the buld is turned on, the cloth waves upwards simulating flames. Could be what you are looking for but quite tricky to achieve on a model.

Good luck anyway.

yeah, that would be quite a feat on a model

About all I could think is using some colored epoxy that you might could shape into flames before it gets totally set up. Of coarse most of the burning vehichles that I have dealt with you would mostly see a very black smoke and see flames licking out every now and then.

[:D]HEY!!! Now there’s an idea LQ!!! just cover the entire model with thick black smoke (cotton), and don’t even worry about flames.[:D][:P][;)] (or forget the model and just put black smoke on a dio base to simulate KO vehicle)[;)]

seriously now, I wonder if you could lightly paint transparencies to look like flames…

Model railroader have “live smoke” effects in some of their engines. You put a little pellet or some liquid into the engine and it is electrically heated until it smokes. It doesn’t produce that much smoke, but you could probably adapt the mechanism to fit in a tank diorama. It would make a nice smoldering effect.

I’m sure with all the grease and oil and other dirty things found on armor that the smoke would be very black. Also if it would be an interiour fire, it would be contained in a basically fire proof container so essentially you could just have some black smoke pouring out of hatches and other openings and give the same idea.

What ILM did in SW Ep. 2 was use 2 or 3 LED’s on an electronic board set to flicker randomly. Now if you place a slightly matted bit of cast resin on top, painted a translucent smokey colour, that might look the trick.

yeah I saw that article. but, I am slowly building my repertoire of tools up. I do not have any means of casting resin, and in fact have yet to touch a piece of it. (same goes for PE, but I ordered some of that through my LHS and it should be in by the next time I go in.)

Lizardquing is right, of all the burning tanks I have seen in photos, very very few actually show any flames… you might try the thick cotton stuff painted black and make it coming out of every hole on the vehicle and the engine if that is what got hit.

Flames would indeed be tough. I’d bet Shep Paine would have some ideas! When we were kids, we’d actually burn a model once in a while, but I suppose that would have limited time appeal here.

Don’t try this at home kids! (go to a friend’s back yard so they get the whipping).

Ron

Heh heh heh… Evil I tell you!

By the way, being officially the last person so far to actually get the FSM mag this month, great looking M2, Ron… Made me look at mine and cry… Well… Not really, but you know what I mean…

don’t feel too bad michaelvk, I haven’t gotten mine yet this month.

Chris I feel your pain. I asked the same question awhile back and got pretty much the same answers. I was hoping you got better results when I read this.

did it happen to be for your audie m10 too???

Yea that’s what it was for. I haven’t come up with an answer that I’m totally happy with yet. I’m going to try flicking lights and railroad smoke if I ever get a base built.

I’m with Robert on this one Chris,
My opinion is why detract from a good build by doing something that just never seems to look right.
Don’t let that stop you from trying though. You could be the one that comes up with the way to do it so that it looks fantastic.

You could always take a picture of your model and photoshop the fire and smoke. Print out an 8x10 and frame it. Sort of a 2D build.

Mike