This a photo I took at NAS Pensacola air show at the beginning of November. Notice anything wrong with the jet? How would you ding a builder for such a blatant of a “mistake” if he did the same thing to a model aircraft? This is just to show even the big boys get it wrong every once in a while. The really bad thing is this is the commanders jet. I’m sure someone will post the mistake so I won’t just tell you.
I may not be very observant but, the one thing I noticed is that the high-vis star and bars is not correctly positioned. It should be rotated 180 degrees.
Just what I noticed.
Oh yeah… I see that. How about that.
My first guess was totally wrong. I was gonna say they could’ve done a better job on hteir panel line wash…
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The national insignia on the wing is not only upside down but also in the wrong place it should be further up along the wing closer to center.
Yep star and bar is backwards.
The point of the star is towards the back of the wing,and the leading edge slats.
Someone goofed. It wasm’t the first and it wont be the last.
My RF-4C in Vietnam had serial numbers 65-818 on the tail. Go back and look at historical data on the RF-4C and you will see that aircraft did not exist. Aircraft RF-4C-24-MC, 64-818 did exist. All data that came with the aircraft stated it was a 65 model. Who is correct?
The outfit my son is with, which flyes the C-130 Tallons, has two operational aircraft that crashed many years ago. There was a US goverment agency that flew non existent aircraft which they no longer needed. These two aircraft were turned over to the USAF and serial numbers from two crashed aircraft were given to these aircraft. A type of Phoenix you might say.
I am sure there are many other discrepancies through history.
I will second that. I noticed that right off and I was looking for more mistakes… anybody?
Berny, does that mean if we make a mistake we can just say its like that on the real plane? One would think they would be more careful with the serial number to a multi-million dollar jet? I know the serial number for my $200 bicycle is stored safely!
The answer is simple,- its so the people hes playing chicken with know who to sue
Colin, only if you have documentation to back it up. [%-)] If not, the rivet counters will tear it up. I entered my RF-4C in a contest and was dinged for having the serial number incorrect. I even had a photograph of the aircraft from a side angle but OH NO.
I think it’s a shame that judges too often, look for what’s wrong with a model instead of what’s right or looks good.
Jerry
the copilot is not wearing pants.
This is why i dont go to contest anymore. The last one I went to was a popularity contest.[#offtopic]
OK sorry to get off the topic a bit there.
Ok i’ll speak for the judges. In an IPMS event judges should not be flagging accuracy unless It’s a large obvious inaccuracy . The only time I use accuracy is if I’m looking at two models so well done and close to one another that only accuracy will beak the tie. Accuracy is very slippery slope to judge on and one would really have to know the subject to do so. I judge based on these 5 things, basic modeling skills, consistency, overall finish, attantion to detail and degree of difficulty. I can tell you this, In most events I can weed out two thirds or better of the competition with the first 2 or 3 criteria. Rarely do I have to resort to accuracy or “rivit counting” to make a choice. If you do a subject that displays unusual marking or features you may want to bring a picture or write is down so that the judges know that it is intentional and not an error. I can’t speak about all events or judgs but I can say that I judge as close as possible to the guidlines in the competition handbook as do most judges I know.
An example of this happened at a recent show I was at. A japanese aircraft sporting a bare metal finish, painted on marking, super detail cockpit right next to a almost out of box bf109. The 109 sported alot of accuracy errors as well. The Wing slats were closed, it showed metal chipping on the prop (G-6), and a seam line where there should have been one was missing. At first look it would seem the 109 has no chance of winning. But the japanesse aircraft had open seams all the way down the wings. part alingment problems, and even though it’s cockpit was super detailed the rest was not (consistency). The bottom line the 109 won because it displayed better basic skills, consisency, and overall finish even though the japanese aircraft had more detail, and was more accurate IMO. The better built model will always have a large advanatge over a accurate model with basic errors showing. I will not comment on a specific event, but if you have questions about general judging I will be happy to help out. Were not the rivit counting cold hearted monsters many have come to believe.[:)]
Yep, seen that before. We had a few jets like that when I was in the Pukin’ Dogs. We just fixed it on the next 56 day inspection. The worst is when corrosion painted the stars and bars on the left side of the jet upside down, that got fixed an hour after the MO saw it. [;)]
Judging can be very difficult when you have a room full of “good looking” models. Our job is still the same we have rank them first ,second, and thrid. In order to do so we have to go beyond what looks good and try to pick out winners based on common criteria. When you have half a dozon models in the same class all very closely matched That’s when scratchbuilding, added detail, degree of difficuly and yes sometimes accuracy if necessary come into play. If I am looking at a new tamiya kit vs a old dragon kit and they are in my opinion equally matched in all other catagories I’ll put ther dragon kit ahead of the tamiya. Why? the dragon kit took alot more work to get it to that point than the tamiya kit did. Degree of difficulty won out. So maybe in appearance they both look just as good or to another person they like the tamiya better for whatever reason. As a judge I can’t say I like this one better because the colors are more to my liking . I have to have a valid reason to break the tie and still judge them by the same rules.
I think I would enter a competition you were judging. You sound like someone who is fair and understands what judging is. The last competition i entered 6 years ago now, not to mention any names (I live near a town called Birmingham in Alabama) was not well done at all. Popularity was the number one factor in winning. I wish all judging was done as you have described above.
Nice photoshop.
Hey look, you do exsist Wayne…[:P] By the way, nice pix. As you mentioned, even they can make errors…
Flaps up, Mike
Someone finally got it right !! [:P]