This is my first posting of a photo that I took myself. I joined this forum in March of 2004 and it took me this long to finally do it. I’m even farther behind the times than ol’ Tilley!
Anyway, this poorly focused shot is of USS Enterprise moored in Jubal Ali, UAE in 2007.
You’re not just a kiddin’ about something one doesn’t see every day!
last I heard…the enterprise will be decommissioned and cut up in Bremerton…
Well, they’ve got a head start on her at Newport News. What they will do there is dismantle her, remove nuclear fuel and other radioactive components and then tow her to Bremerton for scrapping and the removal of the eight reactors. I’ve been involved in this process for submarines and nuclear cruisers in the past; it is a long, painstaking process and will even more difficult on Enterprise. I’m glad that I am retired, it would be hard for me to participate in the necropsy and dissection of this ship. Plus, it is really hard work!
Notice that her dissection had already begun even prior to this tow from Norfolk across Hampton Roads to Newport News.
I hear that the guy driving her almost hit a pyramid!
That process should be given as much time as needed. The Russians really seem to be botching this. Maybe we can make some money decommissioning their old stuff.
Great pictures, Lee.
No, but he did take the nose off of a sphinx.
They are going to tow her from newport News Virginia to Bremerton Washington for final scrapping? IIRC, isn’t she too wide to fit thru the Panama Canal? So that means a trip around Cape Horn… Now that will be an epic journey.
You know, Stik, within the next decade it will be easier to go around the top, headed east from the eastern seaboard. True and a key reason that China wants a blue water navy.
How appropriate. A ship pictured with a herd of camels, the “Ship of the Desert”. Great pic, subfixer!
But what a shame to scrap her, considering her history. Couldn’t they dock her somewhere and make it a museum?
And here I thought it was Taiwan, and those other disputed resource rich island groups and sea areas to the south east, so that they can actually project power off of the mainland there. Since the Northern passage would be all off of Russian territory I can’t see China’s interests there- aside from the age old China/Russia rivalry in the east.
Actually, all the US carriers will fit the present Panama Canal locks; which has been the limiting factor for US Naval capitol ships for some time now. If memory serves, the locks are 900’ x 190’ x 40’
Which is why the Iowa class were 889 x 188 x 35 or so. Carriers are longer, but only at the flight decl, and canal-sized at the waterline.
Of course, if/when the new super-max canal opens, this will be less of a constraint.
Also, from memory, some of out CVN are constrained by SALT or Start treaties to have to sit some specified amount of time with the engineering spaces open to the sky to verify that the reactors & fuel are fully and completely removed. This was done to Long Beach, Texas (CGN), and several others.
This would not be conducive to being a museum ship. That, and few state park systems are going to be entirely comfortable with something containing “reactors” even if some of us do understand how ionizing radiation works.
The only thing that I could see being salvaged for museum display would be the island structure, and it is really big! I don’t think it will happen.
Ship will not be used as a museum. The work they have to do to remove reactors is way to damaging.
A spokesperson for the Navy stated that she would be towed around the Cape as she is too big to fit in the Panama Canal.
Since when did the US Navy have a Camel Squadron…???
CapnMac82, the iowa class is 108’2" not 188’.
As part of the new policy of the Two-Ocean-Navy, American battleships had been designed within a beam constraint of 108 feet (33 m) in order to pass through the locks of the Panama Canal. After being similarly rebuilt, the Tennessee, the California, and the West Virginia were broadened to 114 feet (35 m) wide, limiting their use in wartime to the Pacific Theater of Operations.
en.wikipedia.org/…/USS_Tennessee_(BB-43)
The lock chambers are 110 ft (33.53 m) wide by 1,050 ft (320 m) long, with a usable length of 1,000 ft (305 m). en.wikipedia.org/…/Panama_Canal_locks
stikpusher , the northwest passage runs thru canadian territorial waters so russia can’t complain then.
Nice shots there
Ah, but Mr. Triva Expert;
Stik said “northern passage”. That’s a more general term
Read this:
http://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/Arctic_oil_and_gas/$FILE/Arctic_oil_and_gas.pdf
With 20% of the world’s untapped oil and gas deposits in the Arctic Ocean, as soon as that industry has made it navigable through somewhat unintended consequences, they will be all over it with drilling operations. It’s a pretty short trip south to China.
Its good news for the CVN fleet because the training mechanism, and supply chain for the Enterprise’s reactors has been shut down. The remaining nukes all have variations of the same model reactor. A friend on another board told me that he had been aboard three years ago and she was really showing her age.
A lot of the old nuke cruiser guys went to the Prize when their ships were deactivated. Generally speaking, Enterprise nukes and submarine nukes are the only Navy nuke sailors I really had any respect for as far as their abilities and knowledge on how to really get down and dirty with reactor maintenance.
On Enterprise there was a sign that read “If it pumps, we’ve fixed it”, there is a lot to be said for those guys trying to keep 1950s technology and machinery running.