Good Day All,
I heard a rumour that there is a company out there that makes a C-5B, and not C-5A exclusively in 1:72. I think its a vac kit maker out of the UK. Can anyone help me identify who it might be?
Much thanks,
Milan[:O]
Try here:
You’ll probably have to ask via email for prices, since I can’t find any way to order the kit from that website currently. If you look under the “About Us” link it suggests that they still produce it.
Bruce
Does Delta make the C-5B only? I know they say they make a C-5 but I believe this one is a copy of the old ID models C-5A. Do you know who make the C-5B exclusively?
Much thanks,
Milan
I think the Delta kit is a copy of the old ID models one. As far as I know, this is the only C-5 kit in 1/72 scale but I could be wrong. I don’t know of anyone who makes a C-5B exclusively (I don’t know enough about the differences to know how hard it would be to convert from one to the other). I have talked with one vac-kit manufacturer about the C-5, and he said he hasn’t been able to find good enough plans to produce a kit. I’ve found plans for the C-5A available from Bob’s Aircraft Documentation, but I don’t know how good they are since I haven’t had a look at them (yet).
Personally, I would like to see a better C-5 kit available (particularly non-draped molding with surface detail) as well as better 1/72 kits for a lot of larger subjects (C-17, C-141, C-124, C-133 - all currently available as basic vac-kits requiring quite a bit of work).
Bruce
Good Day,
You and me both would like to see some of the “C” planes produced in better quality plastic. Apparently there is some company out of the Uk i believe that only does a C-5B…its a nice mystery but unfortunatly no one knows the answer!
Frusterating no??
Cheers
Milan[:O]
Is the Delta kit exclusevly a C-5B??
With the talk of C5 kits, is there a good market for someone to invest in a lot of time and money to make several kit?
Daniel
Agreed, but ironically a company like AIM making larger 1:72 kits has all but gone out of business…there are probably many reasons for this, but what a bloody shame!
Cheers
Milan[:O]
hi,
I am a C-5 tech. up here at Westover ARB and if you can find the ID kit (I have this one and it is very basic, also the nose contour is off a little) it is the only one out there. the main diffrence between the A and B models is internal structure, alloys, systems,etc… but there is some exterior stuff as well
- the A does not have a bilige acess hatch on the fwd. belly (aft of the nose wheel well about halfway to the main gear) the B does.
- the A the hydraulic external connection hatches are hinged upward. on the B they are hinged in the front
- the UHF antennas on the bottom of the visor and the aft spine (behind the ADF" towel rack" ) on the A they are raked back(shark fin type) on the B they are straight.
- B models have chaff/flare system. A models dont (except one or two A I cant rember tail #)
- because of the chaff/flare system the B will have that armament block by the crew door
- most A models will have a brown/tan wheel well celing, (floor heat channels) the B will be white the walls and other details are white on both.
just rember that all this isnt very hard to fix even the 1/144 revell/otaki/testors kit can be made into both easly as this kit is “unisex” when it comes to A/B diffrences. however the C-5M with the glass cockpit and the CF-6 engines will be even more diffrent. it will still be easy to convert as the basic aitframe hasn’t changed. also rember that the planes hade slight diffrences as mods were done over the years but unless you worked on them as I have you wont know what they are or when they were done.
hope this helps
Eric
Very helpful - much more useful for the differences than the book references I’ve found. I’ve filed this info away for when I get to the Delta/ID C-5 kit. I wasn’t sure which variant I wanted to do, but now I think I’ll definitely do it as a C-5B.
For the nose contour, do you have any suggestions about what would need to be fixed?
Thanks,
Bruce
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Hi there,
I was actually reading into it and the C-5A’s and B’s I read tend to be different as apparently the A’s wings are not as structurally sound as the initally wished as they found some cracks in the wing roots i believe with set them to design a different wing for the C-5B. So my impression was that the C-5B was different due to having different wings. Is this a noticable feature? Do you have any pics that point out the differences between the two. Any pics of the C-5M?
cheers
Milan
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Need to get it if you do not have it.
Tons of great info on C5’s.
Daniel
Also here
[:D] http://www.theaviationzone.com/images/html/galaxy/page1.asp
and here
http://www.theaviationzone.com/factsheets/c5.asp
great stuff
Daniel
So it seems like the engines and wings have some changes from the C-5A to the C-5B…anyone have any good comparative fotos illustrating this??
hi,
well the wing boxes on the A were infeior alloy metals… without getting too deep, this was a major problem as they were after testing found to have a 10,000 hour life, not god on a 30,000 hour airplane.
all 76 A model aircraft were rewinged in the early 80’s thats why before the planes were camo. you would see a plane with a camo wing box and white and grey fusealage.
so to make a short story long. the “new” wings are the same as the B wings (the first B is AF83-1285). however the wings were the same EXTERNAL dimentions as the early wings. this is because the both models are intrechangable… flaps slats, spoilers etc… the feathers we call them. are the same on both A and B model planes this also helped Lockheed with tooling as they were getting ready to make the 50 new B model aircraft. now on the engs. they are the same here the original A had the GE-TF39 turbofan, if you look at old photos they look smoky … like a C-141… this Dog of an engine was upgraded several times but nothing external was changed on it it was all “inside stuff” …soooo whats this all mean? well the wings, pylons, engines all look the same on the outside on both airplanes…and indeed from a maint. stand point most items are interchamgable. for example when a plane goes to Depot the flaps slats etc will be removed and be retained as a set not nessarly going back on the same plane…A or B.
for photos go to airliners.net i think i even have some on there… way back!
eric
hi, see post below on the wings.
well on the C-5M i have some pics but since they are GVT. i cant send them…(probably violate some law!) but they are only getting new pylons(plus some systems upgrades) and the GE CF-6 turbofan and the changes even then aren’t too drastic. there is only one plane that i know of done and i dont think it flew yet so i cant say much about it.
eric
on the nose well its kind of weird… maby too pointy? to steep of an angle… if i ever get to mine i will likely carve one out of balsa or something… but this was on the ID kit when it first came out… i dont know if someone has fixed it yet…
Eric
ps: personaly i would make an A from westover… we have the best C-5 outfit in the world! this "ain’t no crap ". and we will someday recieve the first and probably only C-5Bs in the AFRC. our unit is supposed to convert but the whole thing is on hold now… we already sent off three A aircraft… 66-8304, 67-0167 to Davis Monthan for retirement ond 68-215 to Wright patterson AFB ohio to replace that units C-141s
besides all the Active planes are not as well maintined as well as our reserve planes but thats a story for another time!!!
Eric
you mentioned the windows on the C-5M would be different, how so?
hi, well the flight deck windows will be the same but what i mean by “glass cockpit” is all the old analog
guages will be replaced with liquid crystal displays kind of like a modern airliner.
Eric