Guillow's Avenger

Getting the wing structure together,

Cool!! What’s the scale, and how big will it be when you’re finished?

Cool. Brings back memories. Everyone should try their hand at stick and paper at least once.

Stick and tissue baby, gotta love it. A stick and tissue Stearman was my first flying model.

It is 1/32.I will measure it once completed!

A relative of mine just gave me one of Guillows’ 1/16 scale P-38 kits. No idea what I’m going to do with it yet. Too much to build already. They are neat kits, though.

–Chris

I cover Guillows models with thin card stock or sheet styrene instead of tissue. Tissue doesn’t represent metal covering very well, but good card stock or styrene sheet does. Tissue is fine for WW1, but for later aircraft, use card stock or plastic unless you really want it to fly.

But then, the Guillows models do not fly well anyway. They are too heavy. Too much detail, and the wood is not selected for lightness, but for strength.

I have some Monokote that is a plastic like covering that you put on with a heat gun like shrink wrap.Since it is white,I was thinking of doing the Atlantic Coast scheme of two tone gray.

Hello!

I have built a 1:32 Hellcat back in 1997 - brought it to Poland from Australia. I just doped it (it had a nice navy blue tissue) and after it lost its undercarriage after the first flight, it flew quite well. Of course, if you are going to paint the aircraft and add detail, flying them babies after that would be a nonsense. Nevertheless, those kits are something special! philo426, good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

Outstanding!! I built and flew several of the Guillow’s kits as a kid. And I just purchased a P-51 kit for me and my son to build in the spring. Hope you enjoy the build and thanks for sharing!

I build stick’n’tissue models often and if you intend to fly the Avenger, Monokote is much too heavy - even Lite Span is a little heavy. Shrinking the Monokote is likely to warp the structure as well. Tissue would be best even if painted. If you don’t intend it to fly, weight is unimportant.

Yeah i was concerned that the monokote might cause warpage perhaps I should use the tissue after all.

Again it brings back memories ,anyone remember when you could walk into a hobby shop and say,hey I need some dope

Yeah that stuff sure was nasty!

Wing unit off the paper.

The problem with any fabric, paper or thin plastic is that when it pulls taunt it goes flat and the fuselage will become faceted, like those PE models. Even though the formers are curved, the covering will pull flat when heated to shrink it (in the case of monokote, or just water shrinking with tissue). You need something that will hold the curve and doesn’t need to be pulled tight. Again, if you are building it to fly, that is something else, but if it is for static scale you need a heavier covering.

Don,

You’ve just answered a question I’ve been mulling over for YEARS! If thin card stock or sheet styrene work well for covering Guillows type models, I’m thinking lithography plates or even soda can aluminum would do the job as well.

I wonder if thin balsa sheet can be used to plate the airframe?

I went to Hobbytown to purchase a 3 bladed prop to replace the goofy red plastic prop included in the kit.(I realize it might be necessary for rubber powered flight but still goofy)

Too heavy. If you want to fly It, you need to go with tissue. Unfortunately, Monokote and the associated lighter versions may be too heavy as well. As posted earlier, the Guillows kits were heavy to begin with.

Now, with that being said, as a static display…1/32 balsa would be great [Y]

Just don’t put your finger through it.