Here’s a model I’ve wanted for a while, tamiya 1/35 flakpanzer whrilwind, I really like this one cause it looks like a sci-fi tank with it’s flak gun. Now this one for the model and plans for the turret to make the mold, also there some good points to see on this one, like the flak gun is dark yellow, fortunatly I can just repaint the other one, and some figures.
First think I notice is the body, it’s much smaller that I thought, slightly larger than my M113A1.
The engine exauste.
The model has the optional zimmer coating, but the kit didn’t came with one, so I try making my own out of hobby paste (gap filling).
Wheels and axes have been place without any problem.
In 2 days the body and flak 38 gun are complete.
Now for the tricky part, the turret, as you can see the turret bottom is open, this could post a problem, but for the mold to work propelly I must do the mold to slip in half, that way the pieces doesn’t get stuck inside the mold.
Here’s what it mit look like when fully assemble, I had to remove the zimmer coat, the pattern just didn’t look real.
Hmmm…your zimm is a little bit out-of-scale, but I applaud you for jumping in and attepting it! You should “search” the forum for some of the zimmerit forums here to get a better idea of how-to. I see you still have to do the hull top…could be helpful!
I like this kit myself; I have one in my collection. It builds up nicely!
Ive seen this kit in my LHS and quite fancied it. Doesnt look or sound like theres too many hassles in the basic build. I may have to bite the bullet and get one.
I’m sorry, but just what is the scratchbuilding here? I don’t understand. I agree with the Doog on the zimmerit. This is one of the most Basic Tamiya kits around. Can you explain what you mean by the “Flak Gun” being yellow?
First of all, your build has gotten better compared to your first one and your attempt of zimmerit will only help you to get better at it. I haven’t perfected the zimmerit skills yet and I find myself practicing on a plastic sheet over and over again. I’m having a hard time understanding what you are trying to accomplish or explain. So far, your build looks like an ordinary OOB build with zimmerit application. What did you exactly scratch build in this kit? Or are you planning to add some parts that you are going to scratch build?
I have built the same kit before and besides drilling holes on muzzles of guns, I really didn’t think it was a bad kit.
Didn’t you see part 1, I’m trying to do a exact replica of this tank, I have a flak 38 gun from tamiya, and the body will be from a panzer IV, but the unique turret will be scrachbuild.
Useing the instruction form FSM “How to do diorama”, a cast box, melted plastic (from leftover plastic branches) and plaster to make a identical cast of the turret, but its gonna be tricky, the large gap in the turret will be a big problem, a object in the middle will be place to stop the plastic to fill it in, but it will be place in the middle of the cureing proccess cause I don’t want to trap the piece. Fortunatly the turret comes in two, so it won’t be glue together, it will be much easier to make it right.
I’ve made the cast box but I reallly don’t know if its gonna work?
Ok so I’m not the only one who can’t understand this thread. You say you are making an exact replica of this tank? Why don’t you just build the Tamiya kit? Why are you trying to replicate the Flak turret, when you have the kit? Most people who make casting molds use resin as the medium, not “melted plastic trees” as you state.
What is the point of replicating this model kit? I could see if you had an accuracy issue with the existing kit part, and wanted to “improve” your model by casting a “corrected” part…but this thread just isn’t computing? I might offer a little advise if you are up to it…I would try to master basic model building…proper construction, research,painting ,weathering ,zimmerit application etc., before tackling “replicating” complex molded parts with melted styrene.
I don’t mean to be disrespectful…but I’m outta here[banghead]
When you say “Didn’t you see Part 1?”, is this what you mean?
I really, really don’t want to sound rude or anything, but I’m more than a little confused about what you’re telling us here. Are you saying that you’ve completely re-molded the kit turret? From your posts, it almost sounds like you’re using the kit-supplied turret as a pattern, re-molding your own turret out of melted plastic, and then installing it on the kit-supplied chassis. If that’s the case, then I’m really confused, because the pics you’ve posted appear very much like the kit-supplied turret.
I’ve lost the thread, but I know somewhere here – or in Scratchbuilding, or somewhere – T-Rex was talking about his intention to build a Whirbelwind from a PzKfw IV and a 20 mm Flak veirlinger (or whatever), and how he was going to scratchbuild the turret and all.
I think that’s the “Part I” he refers to.
Seems like he found the Tamiya kit and has gone with that, but intends to cast his own turret for some reason.
2 chassis…maybe? making 2 flakpanzers from 1 complete Tamiya kit and a leftover chassis from another project? I’m not sure about the added benefit of a dark yellow flak gun.
T-rex, wth all due respect to your misunderstanding of the word “scratchbuild”, this is NOT “scratchbuilding”! This is simply “COPYING”!
If you want to see what scratchbuilding is, look at the scratchbuilt “Russian Rail Gun” post by philo426. That was created with paper plans and the builder’s own skill at forming the sides, panels, etc, out of plastic stock. Or simply visit the forums dedicated to SB.
I don’t want to rain on your parade, but I think you need to call this project of yours what it really is–copying.[xx(] No offense intended, hope you take the advice to heart![:)]
“edit”: at the very most, this might be considered a “Conversion”, if there is some significant difference to one of the major components, such as the turret.
[%-)] I think you’ve mentioned that you are making the unique turret. Are you making one of a kind or unusual turret that is significantly different than the one you get from the kit?
I think we all need to remember that T-rex is young (14, 15 is my impression, give or take a year or two) and inexperienced, and I think he’s shown developing skills and a great imagination in the few months he’s been posting. From his spelling and gramatical mistakes I’m not sure his native language is English, so maybe he’s still got some issues with our specialized vocabulary (I’m still confused about the differences between a “pin wash” and a “wash,” for instance, or “link and length” vs. “indy tracks”). Maybe he doesn’t fully understand “scratchbuilding” like the rest of us do.
I wish I’d had his chutzpah, to publish in this public forum, at his age!
Just a couple of thoughts without benefit of enough coffee …
Good point. I didn’t realize he was that young. Just putting the chassis together as well as he has, is more than I could do at that age. Also, requires a lot (and I mean about 100%) more patience and diligence than I could display at 14 or 15.
Alright I’m sorry, before I even join FSM I didn’t even know what scrachbuilding, weathering, and many new subject was, feels like I miss alot, I appichiate your euh, comments? but I just turn 16 this march. but if you want more info of this subject, se the first forum in scrachbuild called “First scrachbuild model, flakpanzer part 1 the idea”.
Okay, maybe i’m going alittle too far, but this is for resin plastic (whatever that is) but its ONLY the turret that needs casting, what you see isn’t the mold, the reasons why there will be two copy is because I think this is a really nice tanks, probally one of my favorite, and its perfect for the practice, if the cast doesn’t work, then the turret will be build of styren sheet but it will take much long to build than to mold the piece, but less risky.
What you see now is all the tamiya kit, but this kit won’t be completed for a while because of the mold, the turret will NOT be intal until after the mold is a succes, the rest is to be done another time.
