I’m not too impressed with the gunze sangyo acrylic dullcote and want to switch to a diff. brand. who makes a good dullcote that will work good on humbrol and testors enamels?
I use Testors Matt spray. Some thirty odd years ago my choice was my sisters hair spray. Wish I had one to see just what kind of finish it gave, as a 13 year old it looked great .
I use Testors acrylic dullcote. It works great, usually takes 1 or 2 light coats depending on the sheen you want. I spray it and it works great but it also brushes on very well, I usually brush it onto 1/72 scale fighters and you would never know.
I used to use Model Masters dulcoat and it works well, but since I’ve started using acrylics I decided to try Tamiys’a dull coat in Future and it works great. I mix it about 30% Tamiya flat with 70% future and it gives a great flat finish. No strong laquer fumes and easy clean up!
Eric
I use Testor’s Dullcote Laqcuer #1160 and thin it down with lacquer thinner.
Glenn
I use Citadel Matte Varnish straight from the can. Works great and dries fast. No worries with this stuff.
demono69
ok , but don’t use revell matt cote ( it’s so shiny you can use it for gloss cote [:(])
i’m new to this dullcote, glosscote experience. but i do have a question to the person who started this thread.
what did you not like about the gunze dullcote? this is not an attack of any sort. i was just curious, since i have used the same gunze product. and it makes everything “flat.” so i thought it did the job.
but actually this the first time i have encountered clear coats. and i haven’t tried any other clear coats. so i don’t know what other flat finishes there are.
i know that there is a difference with glosscoats though. since one is more shinier than the next. but flat cotes seems all the same to me. it has very little shine to it. even when light hits it.
if someone can teach me more about clear topcoats, i’ll really appreciate that.
Hi, folks! [:)]
I use the Gunze H20 Flat Clear with my airbrush and their B-503 Flat/Matt Topcoat in the spray can with excellent results. These are both water-based “paints.”
I love 'em!
I’m curious, M1: why are you unsatisfied with the Gunze flat finishing products? Not flat enough? I mostly use the H20 through an airbrush, and I’ve seen nothing flatter. Dead flat! I used to use Testor’s Dullcote in the spray can years ago, and I was unsatisfied with the inconsistancy of that product (in the can, anyway). One time it’d be dead flat, and the next it would be a satin finish. Never could figure it out.
With the Gunze I’m using now, it’s consistantly dead flat, every time!
I generally use Testor’s Dullcoat but I think any matte/flat medium will develop a sheen if applied too heavily.
Hi Eric,
I think I’ll try your combination to use for my dull finishes. Is the mixture water-soluble? Would you dispose of it in the drain? Also, how long can you store it?
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
I’ve used Tamiya Flat Base mixed with Tamiya clear and get a nice flat finish .
[#ditto] And i love it gives a real nice dull flat look.
Hi Shellback and SmokingGuns,
I’ve seen Testors’ Dullcote in stores, but they it looked a bit yellowed and separated. Is that normal? Would mineral spirits work as thinner for Testor’s Dullcote?
Thanks again,
Jeff
yellow on top kinda white on the bottom? If thats the Questions. Yes its normal just give it a shake.
testor’s Dullcote laquer, a bit of hardware store paint thinner and my airbrush and I’m good to go. I use this over enamels, oils and acrylics with no problem. Once shaken and sprayed, there’ sno appereciable color shift on the model, even over white.
I’m another Gunze Flat H20 flat fan.
If you want super flat, you an always add a few drops of Tamiya’s X21 flat base, works a treat.
Karl
Hi skrooby ![:)] Looks like your question got answered . Usually the "flat " particles will settle to the bottom , so its a good idea to keep it stired up every once in a while between spraying coats of it . I use Model Master thinner myself . Just my choice .
I am going to hijack the thread for just a second (read fast) [:D] Is polly scale flat coat mixed with a clear coat (future?) to make a flat coat, or can it be sprayed straight out of the bottle? I bought a couple bottles, but I noticed it looked much like the Tamiya Flat base, so I figured I would ask before I screwed up a perfectly good model!
Hi Colin,
I have airbrushed Pollyscale flat coat both straight from the bottle and by adding about 10% distilled water (which is recommended on the bottle), and both ways have worked fine.
Mark