So I was selling a JU 52 on another website. All was going well and I had a few bids on it even. The next day I go to check on its progress and come to find out the the “powers to be” have removed it because of the decals!![:(!]
In their response email, they said I couldnt sell any nazi stuff but people can sell books, coins etc. with the nazi symbol on it. Now I have to relist it and wait another week…very annoying to allow some things but not others.
How is a historically accurate German model not the same as other memorabillia such as books and coins??? Has this ever happened to anyone else?
hannaman-
that is the first thing I thought of too
Rick-
They told me a nazi symbols could be shown on thier site when it is on book covers, coins etc. Is there another nazi symbol? I thought the swasticka was it.
ajlafleche-
they wont allow photo editing or cropping. They specifcally said no in my email
here is part of the email:
In accordance with our Offensive Materials policy, XYZ.com does not
permit Nazi items to be sold on our site. This means that items that
bear any markings of the Nazi party are prohibited on XYZ.com. This
applies even if the offending symbols have been cropped, edited or
otherwise covered or altered in the image or description of the item.
Prohibited items also include those that are advertised with Nazi
terms, including but not limited to: Aryan nation, Hitler, Hitler
Youth, HJ, NSDAP, NSKK, Nazi, Neo-Nazi, RZM, SS, or Third Reich.
Sellers may not use techniques to circumvent our policy, such as
substituting XX or other double letters to signify SS items.
Exceptions to this rule are as follows:
Stamps and coins are allowed even if they contain offensive symbols.
Non-propaganda books and movies about WWII or Nazi Germany, even if
the Nazi symbol appears on or in the item
Mein Kampf may be sold provided that it is not a German language
edition of the book. Also sellers must state in their listing that
they will not ship this item outside the United States.
XYZ.com most likely has this policy in order to comply with the laws it must operate under. You need to say what country they are based in. You must remember that our laws on freedom of speech do not apply in other countries.
grandadjohn- xyz.com is a US website (I changed the name for the purposes of this forum but I imagine you could guess who). I even specified in my orgional bid that I would only ship with in the United States. It isnt the law against naziizm that I am upset with, it is the fact that they allow some memorabillia while others are prohibited. Especially, something as harmless as a plastic model! Oh well I guess.
BUFFS?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?[yuck] They are giving the state of Colorado such a black eye! But that is a whole other forum[(-D]
kaleu-
I tried that this time around and so far so good. Acutally, I took a picture that was a real close-up of the front of the plane, not showing any markigs. The rest are available through a link not associated with that website.
Agree that’s a whole other fourm and not for here(thier currents problems), went there for two years before my world tour way back when, but my sister is a CSU grad so at times I rout for them too.
Good luck on your newest try
just wondering, why is a non-german mein kampf ok whiel a german version isn’t?
if it’s a box, make it at an angle that clearly lets you see the plane but not the tail area, just move the camera to the right. if tis’ a pre built plane, same.
It’s the same thing with the Confederate battle flag. You can’t fly the ‘Stars and Bars’ without being a rascist, but if you stop at any Welcome point when you come into Texas, you’ll find a different style of Confederate flag flying “officially”.
People who are ashamed of their heritage should stay out of polotics.
I agree that double standards stinkThere are any number of symbols which I won’t mention that would be banned if I had my way, but I will not say what they are. Freedom of speech dictates that we should be able to use any symbol we choose in our hobby or our views. However, it has become overly fashionable to be easily offended by those of weak mental stature. It gives them an unrealistic sense of power when they can force some form of repression upon others. Besides, whatever dot com is totally useless to me.[soapbox]
How about something with the buddhist symbol on it? The swastika is the same sybol reversed and tilted 45 degrees. Looking at maps and temples around my neighborhood, I see that symbol often. It often appears on some martial arts wear. I wonder if that would be a problem?
In germany (and some other countries) al swastika’s are a problem, tillted or reversed, makes no difference. Most people don’t know that it’s an old symbol with many meanings.
I think the latvian AF also used a red swastika in the 1920’s/30’s.
The swastika symbol has been around much longer than the third reich, and it is really stupid that people fail to recognize that over and over.
The banned display of this symbol in Germany is absolutely stupidity. What happened, happened. Its evils and effects are only lessened by pretending that it didn’t.