I just got a hasagawa 1/72 scale F-15 kit. In step 14 of the instructions, it shows a picture of how to install the side winders, aim 9 ect. Then it states This kit does not include armament. Chose weapon sets 1-4 and 9,10 sold seperately. This is the second kit from them them that states this. whoever saw a F-15 with out armament?
I think that this is my last hasagawa kit. Richard
Don’t get bent too out of shape about this. Hasegawa just has a different market strategy than other manufacturers. They sell armarment sets, which are quite excellent. Hasegawa also has some outdated instructions which may incorrectly imply the inclusion of armament.
In fact, I have a smal heap of Hasegawa weapons in 1/72 I’m not using anymore (I only do larger scale now) I’d be happy to share with you ifinterested. PM me.
Hmmm. Hasegawa is my favorite kit maker. Haven’t seen any of this with 1/48. Does it only relate to 1/72 scale?
No, we should get bent out of shape on this. Hasegawa has not put armaments in their model kit, in order to sell you aftermarket parts. This should be clearly marked on the box otherwise. I liken it to buying a car and finding out when picking it up that the tires are extra, which set would I like to pay extra for?
What good is a fighter jet without the means to fight? VERY poor on Hasegawa part, and I don’t blame you for being upset. I just hope you’re upset enough to complain LOUDLY to Hasegawa.
The ploy used by Hasegawa to sell add-on weapon sets has always been a major gripe. Especially when the weapon sets are periodically OOP. They show them in the instructions only as a guide for installation. This was very common in most of their older kits, but they seem to be including at least some ordinance in their newer releases.
Regards, Rick
One side note, Hasegawa isn’t cheap. They should include them. Actually I liken them to Tamiya. Tamiya offers most of their AM’s separately. Dragon gives them to you in the kit and for less.
I have noticed that the new kits are coming with some weapons, but not much, and some of them are a real pain in the rear to put together! I have all the weapons sets for 1/48, just because I got so tired of my kits looking so plain.
I was working on a Hasegawa 1/72 Tomcat and it came with all the fittings to mount the phoenix missles, but alas not enough to fill all the mounts. I was really unhappy that I then had to go find and buy the weapons kit to fit out the Tomcat, which the box photos show carrying all the phoenix missles, with nothing to indicate you have to purchase them separately. I won’t buy another one from them if they are going to deceive with the photos on the boxes.
Steve
You show me one thing, and I like what I see enough that I buy it. Then part of what I was shown isn’t included? And I have to pay extra?!?! That hacks me off, and isn’t it called false advertising?
I have been off the puter sice I posted my gripe. I am surprised at the responce. Some one said, 'don’t get to bent out of shape. WRONG i am bent out of shape. It is a rip off!!
I just checked the armament kits that they suggested, and to build the kit the kit the way I wanted to, I have to buy 3 of the 4 weapons stes that they told me I needed. That comes to 20.00 bucks plus an additional 7.50 for shipping. Combine that with what I paid for the kit ( 30.00) and that is 60.00, for a 1/72 kit. Don,t tell me not to get bent out of shape for getting ripped off.
Sorry,not mad at any ons except hasagawa, just venting steam! Richard
It is annoying and I know several modelers who have sworn off Hasegawa because of this situation.
I built a Hasegawa 1/72 F-111 a few years back, it was a reissue of their FB-111A from the late 80s redressed as a current F-111G in RAAF service.
The kit included a batch of Matra Durandal anti runway weapons, that haven’t been carried by the Vark for years and were only fair representations at best. Thankfully the kit did come with four underwing tanks so I had something to hang under it. If you want to arm it up like the G version currently is, you are stuck looking for the extra weapons sets.
What I do notice is that when Hasegawa does include weapons in their kit, the quality of those weapons is generally inferior to what you’ll find in their separate weapons sets so you are, even when you get the weapons in the kit, inclined to consider the separate sets.
I don’t swear off Hasegawa completely, but they have to pretty much be the only game in town for a quality representation of a subject before I put money out for their product.
Another case of a manufacturer being very penny wise and pound foolish. The same thing is happening with small-scale (1/700) ship kits from some of the smaller manufacturers. What you see on the box art or photo of the completed model is not what you get in the box (or tube) because they leave off the photoetch fret - which has all the really neat details like, oh, railings … mast structures … radar screens … you get the idea. If I’ve already forked over $50 for a kit and am ready to go, and only on opening it up find out that I need to plonk down another $15 for the photoetch fret and wait another two weeks to get that, I am not going to be a happy modeler and will probably take future business elsewhere.
I’ve found the quality of the last couple of Hasegawa a/c i’ve built has dropped off
from the usual standard…Lot’s of flash on the kits and just dissapointing all round
especially considering the cost per kit so i would be p[censored]d off if i didn’t get weapons
with a kit [2c] mick [8-]
It is interesting to note that the armor modelers (myself included) are enjoying just the opposite trend right now, Dragon, and others are pouring on accessories…ammo,buckets,uniforms, shoes, Dragons Initial Tiger release even comes with a propoganda camera team figure set!
Hasegawa needs to get with the program.
Steve
Hi, yes I have also noticed the flash. I have had good luck with academy, but the kits are very limited to the models they have. Richard
I still like Hasegawa for their WWII planes, so far ive been pretty happy with them. Some of those acutlay do come with some extra stuff, though usualy a very small amount. Maby if they have enough people complaign about this very silly marketing scheme, they will acutaly change it?
Well I checked out there missel kits that they recommended, and kit three, hasagawa recommended it, has two aim 9’s and the 4 that is usally carried under the belly, cant think of the name of them, there is only one, so that means you have to buy 4 kits at 6.75 apeace to get the 4 that you would need, now is that a rip off or not? and yes I am angery, I paid 30.00 bucks for an F-15 that I cant dress up, without paying another 27+ dollars for something that should have been included any ways.
Now What do you think that the other kit makers are going to start doing?Pretty soon you won’t be getting the wheels,or wint or some silly thing like that. Richard
grhornet, If you check out Hase’s AIRCRAFT WEAPONS: V[U.S. MISSILES AND
LAUNCHER SET] X72-9 It has 6 each of the Sidewinder, Sparrow, AMRAAM plus
SLAMS and cluster bombs all in one box. I’ve hated the situation also since I bought my
first Hase kit 30 years ago of a bombed up F-4E on the box but no bombs inside. Hope
this will help you out.
I ran into this with my 1/72 Hasegawa Skyraider. I paid 7.95 for a couple of bombs. I could have bought a whole 1/72 Academy kit for that and had leftover bombs and rockets for my spares box. It only seems to be a Hasegawa thing. It does make me think twice about purchasing a kit.
I’ve been watching this go on for a bit and think that the important things have been said on the quiet side.[2c]
Hasagawa has been doing this for years. This is not new!! Yes, they don’t include many(if any) weapons. We know this. It has been years! Literally. If you want to send that message to them, send it to them. Tell them you are not getting the value for the dollar, the weapons can easily be included. If you look at the parts break down on the sprues, you’ll see that they are multi part. They were not made as one mold. The pieces could easily be separated and included in each kit that is appropriate. Tell them you won’t purchase any more of their kits. See what they say.
I’m not trying to assemble the masses here, just saying it. that’s all. I am dissapointed with it as well, but have accepted it as the status quo. Same goes for the others as well. Buy an Eduard kit, pay the extra for the profi-pack and still need to buy the other etch set(s) made seperatly. Yes, Dragon is starting to do away with this trend, but they are the first, and it takes a bit for the rest to follow. They will never include everything for one low price, but, I agree. The more the better.[2c]