i will buy an older model of less than stellar quality if it’s the only one in a subject area i am interested such as IMEX modern commercial freighters. i have a pair of DML SCUDs so doubt i will be dropping $140USD for the new TRUMPETER one.
Good stuff here and its very intresting to see what some consider ‘crap’. I know for myself that fit is a second seat to accurate scale rep. I really do’nt set out to look for crap ,which to me would mean a very out of scale or mshapen molding Ill fit I can fix the fit a whole lot easier than a hugely outa scale molding all the better
I think horse shit statements like this should be cut out of threads, and the poster warned.
“There are no crap models, just modelers that don’t have enough skill to make a good looking model from these kits.”
I know I will get the warning instead.
But, today is just friggin’ strange,in one thread, people that “spend too much time” are doing this model thing wrong,and in this one, people that “don’t spend too much time” “don’t have enough skills”
so now,I don’t know if I am “supposed” to build a Academy F-8 (to be a “real” modeler),or try and make the Fujimi F-8 into a silk purse (to show that I am a “real” modeler)
I’ve said this at least 5 times on here,when do the Grand Poo-Bahs of Modeling wave their wands and declare a modeler “able to pick his models himself”,after 100 models?, 200 models?,more? or is 49 years at it actually enough to be a “real modeler” with “adequate skills” and still be free to keep that title if he decides to build a Hasegawa kit?
I know that disagreeing with you on this is forum suicide,but, I don’t see why someone shouldn’t stand up and holler when the blanket insults come out.
Rex
You misunderstood the point of my post, which is that many who call certain models “crap” don’t possess the skill to competently build that “crap” model. I wasn’t bashing anyone for building those models. Are there kits which I consider to be poor quality - yes. Are these kits worth building - to ME - if there is a better kit available - no. That doesn’t mean the kit is “crap”. That doesn’t mean anyone is an inferior modeler for building these kits though. We all possess differing skill levels and differing desires when it comes to why we build and the result we are able to obtain. Personally, using your F-8 example, I would start with the Academy kit. Not because I consider the Fujimi one “crap”, but because the results that I could attain with the Academy one (based on my limited skill abilities) would be better than the results that I could attain by starting with the Fujimi kit.
Hey Tarn;
I wouldn’t get your hackles up. There are infinite thoughts as to what is considered by modelers to be a " Crap " model. I for one over the years consistently find myself making a " silk Purse " out of a so called" Crap model " Case in point in ships ( the Shell Welder ). I would Never impinge on thinking the other fellows skills are less than adequate. I know many modelers who bought the " Little Red Wagon " Dodge kit for instance.
Even Before it was a Lindberg kit . l Have read trash reviews on this kit for over forty years now .Why? I don’t know . If you assemble it carefully and check for fit of All the parts it always has come out right for me . Maybe there was to much flash or sprue junctions ? Isn’t that what a Hobby Knife and sanding board are for ?
Then maybe it’s me . I will not just throw a kit together . Even back in the day when buddies were building two AMT cars a day. ( They sold for 98 cents then ) .I still took a week per model . I have built both planes you mention . Are they good? Well, lets put it this way .When I bought them I didn’t know of quality or accuracy issues with Aircraft . Were they aggravating for me ? Yes . Did they come out okay ? Being as how all I wanted was an F-8 or two on my shelves, sure. Shoot, they’re just unarmored planes sitting there.
I still try to look at the hobby this way . It gets my old creative juices flowing and if it’s one of those models from my stash, Wow ! have models come a long way ? Certainly. If someone wants to build nothing but Smer models, that’s their choice .I build them all .
Would I presume to tell anyone what models to buy ,NO, but I would tell them of My experience with a certain company’s products and let them make up their own mind . It’s not my place to forbid you or anyone else from building a model, no matter what your skill level .Will I be there to answer questions when you hit a rough spot ? Yes .That’s what " Fellow " modelers are supposed to do , Aren’t we ? Nuff said . T.B.
I agree.
At the risk of coming across as an old curmudgeon, I have a bias towards the kits from Monogram, Revell, Airfix, AMT, etc. that I grew up building in the late 50’s and 60’s.
While I’m blown away by some of the new kits being released these days, I’m still grateful that so many of the old “classic” kits are still available.
One of the things I most enjoy about the hobby these days is going back and building some of my favorite kits from the 60’s with my (hopefully) improved skills and techniques. To each their own, I suppose.
Mark
Hypothetically, I’m going to the store to buy my son a Corsair kit. There’s the ancient Monogram one, the Hasegawa one, the Tamiya one, and for giggles, the Hobbyboss easykit one. Considering his skills and desires, Hasegawa/Tamiya are out (too expensive/complex). Monogram looks really good, with the folding wings and retractable landing gear features, even though it’s not the finest version out there, and it looks like a Corsair, and it’s at a rational price. I also have the Hobbyboss easykit, which doesn’t have the working features, but goes together so easily, he can have one up in the air within a day, and it’s not breaking the bank either. I’m happy to have the choices!
I’ve done this quite often; bought a kit from my youth to see how I would do it as an adult. If you go to the Testing forum (I was trying a new photo hosting service), you’ll see some photos of a reissued Aurora Allosaurus dino that Monogram reissued. I bought it within the last month and was seeing how it would look building it 40 years after I originally build it.
that lindbe rg dodge i believe is a remake of the old upc or umc model co from the 60’s and it aint to bad i want it too
i am sorry if my posts offend anyone if they do when /if you see i started a subject please dont bother with it thank you
teejay http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234945313-lindberg-dodge-l-700-truck-125/
this is a review for you to check out on the dodge
joe
DURR,
I don’t think an apology is necessary. Modelers (including myself) can be fairly passionate about their hobby and folks have different likes and dislikes. I don’t see anything wrong with an open discussion as long as it stays civil and respectful of differing viewpoints. Hobbies should be fun, not stressful.
Mark
Bronto - you typed this:
There are no crap models, just modelers that don’t have enough skill to make a good looking model from these kits.
Granted the post was misinterpreted but do be careful next time. It did come off as an insult to beginner modellers. I can see where Tarnship took it the wrong way. I know I did but let’s let by-gones be by-gones. 
I’m 50 and been model building since I was 5 or 6. I took it as an insult.
I’m 49 and have done model kits since I was 6 or 7. Only difference is I just recently returned to this hobby a year ago or so ago after 20 plus year absence.
57 here, 49 years of building since age 8,no break,I even volunteered to “pull the duty” so that I could spend 48 hours modeling while guarding the hangar.
Disregard what was here before
Since I will probably be gone on Monday anyway, there wouldn’t be any way for me to send that kit to someone with “more skill” than I have, in order for them to show us how great it could turn out.
Rex
Well, that WAS me way back when, but it ain’t me now. Personally, I don’t see the insult.
Please tell me you’re not gonna pop smoke over this… I seriously doubt that you’re gonna get a warning for your post, let alone canned. And seriously the whole nature of this thread is so based upon preferences… blondes, brunettes, or redheads? Slender or voluptuous? Virtuous or scandalous? Take your pick.
Pretty much any model I work on turns into a crap model.
But I still have fun doing it…
Hey TarnShip ?
Where you going good buddy ? You ain’t gonna " Bug - Out " over this are you ? I saw nothing that you said as wrong . Maybe like some, you were mis-interpreted .Look how many times it’s happened to me ! Stick good buddy , we need you . T.B.