corsair weathering questions.

good day fellow modellers!!

which corsair is more weathered and dirty? a marine or a navy corsair? i did a birdcage corsair a year ago and i think it might be overweathered if it was a navy corsair, or is it supposed to be?[?] i might do another corsair and i just want it accurately weathered this time.

thanks,

james

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Hey James, This “Bird” is of the US Navy VF-17 “Jolly Rogers” I don’t see a prob with the weathering tho[:)]
One thing about it, those were hard times, constantly in the air & at sea during the war.
Ya did good on this.

Peace bro,
Eddie

Nicely done. I wouldn’t say that it’s over-weathered. It looks well used and still operational, just like it should. Which kit is that? How did you do the paint chipping?

thanks guys,

i read at an article somewhere(i cant remember anymore) that the navy did some touch ups on the planes while on board. unlike the marine land based planes where the hazards really beat up the paint job and everything else. anyways, i passed by the local hobby shop the other day and saw the academy 1:48 corsair that they had and am planning to build another one. the box art shows its probably marine land based so i’d like to get some opinions on weathering. hey ed, thanks as always bro. i didnt even know the plane was of the jolly rogers fame. by the way, ya know where i can get a hold of pappy boyington’s plane?(or markings) i know theres the dabate on the original marking and nos. but its still a part of history that i wanna build. this plane is the tamiya 1:48 birdcage corsair, sorry bout the dark picture, ill try to take good ones next time. anyways, the paint chipping was done with a base coat of aluminum then 2 coats of tamiya clear and lastly blue, medium blue then insignia white. i chipped of the paint using masking tape and my fingernails.

peace,

james

Very well done. Weathering is top notch. I’m a big fan of weathering

Good job. Weathering it top notch. Navy aircraft had lots of oil stains and chipped paint where Marine aircraft had dirt, dust and mud everywhere. I once saw a model of a Navy aircraft on a carrier deck covered with mud, dirt and dust. It looked so out of place on deck, weathered like that.

just search the forums for “Pappy” Here’s one such thread
[url]http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/449282/ShowPost.aspxJames, the Navy still does “touch ups” with zinc chromate yellow[;)] As for Pappy’s bird… big debate on that one #86 was the “Publicity photo” and it is “believed” that #883 was “his” personal bird. Now Cutting Edge has decals for his bird(s) in 1/48… As for which model to use, well, others know more on that[:P]
Hth,
Peace, Eddie

edit: here’s another http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/493904/ShowPost.aspx

James:

The Corsair looks good. The standing joke is that Marine aircraft are delivered with FID (Factory Installed Dirt [:)] Being land based, they would be more apt to pick up dirt, mud, dust, sticks, bugs, grass stains, etc than an aircraft on a relatively clean carrier.

If you’re into WWII aircraft, I highly recommend some info put out by IPMS Stockholm. They have very extensive articles on interior colors of US aircraft during that period. Some of it will blow your mind. Would you believe that very early birdcage Corsairs had salmon-colored gear wells? I downloaded the articles a year or two ago, so I can only guess that they are still available on the website. The URL I used was http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/01/stuff eng interior colours us.htm.

Happy modelling

draybern

A little late in replying, but…

VF-17 was a land based Navy squadron after arriving in the Pacific. So weathering it like a Marine aircraft is acceptable.

so ya mean these corsair variants of VF-17 were not carrier based?, or did they move to carrier ops afterward? i still placed the arrestor hook on, is that ok?

thanks ,

james

James, just because it’s “land-based” doesn’t mean it wont have the hook. LoL… All Navy & USMC aircraft had their hooks.[:D] They had used carriers to get to the land bases bro[;)]

thanks for the info bro!!! now i know!![8D] hey ed, remember the hippie vigi pic? i took some for you at close range, ill send it to ya once i download it from my cam…thanks again bro!!

Faar Out Bro[8D] I look foreward to seeing them[^] I had to remove it from my signature[:(] in order to show my GB Badge[:P]

Actually VF-17 went through carrier qualifications on Bunker Hill, got all the bugs out of the Corsair, then got bumped for Hellcats when they got to Hawaii, they did all there flying out of land bases. However, I believe they did operate off carriers at least once, they provided air cover (CAP) over the fleet while the Hellcats escorted the strike a/c to the target. Then they landed onboard, refueled, and left for home (Munda, IIRC). Also, IIRC, many USMC Corsairs did have their hooks removed during the Solomons campaign, to save weight. HTH, Gary

VF-17 had removed theirs too, and had to put them back on to fly the carrier missions.