We were talking about this the other day at work when we were discussing the old UTTAS program. The Blackhawk will only fit in a C-130 if the rotor head assembly is removed. Sikorski had to get a waiver in the UTTAS fly-off competition because they could not meet the height requirement to be loaded in a 130 or 141 without a lot of pre maintenance preparations. The 130 and 141 both have the same height (Ceiling) deminsions of 8 feet if I remember correctly.
Charlie
Thanks Charlie,
I know you had to pull the rotor head and mast assy out of a Huey for it to fit and suspected the same with the Blackhawk.
The issues with the Huey is what drove one of the primary requirements of the UTTAS to be able to roll on/off of a 130 and 141 without requiring the intensive maintenance before and after. The Boeing version was able to meet this requirment, but sikoski was not and applied for a waiver. It was granted and the rest is history. [:D].
Charlie
Oh yessir. and Oy!! From this bird, first into Entebbe. Italeri 1/72, Isradecals.
you know it kinda just slapped me up the side of the head a minute or so ago that the C130 has been in production for over fifty years!! Is there any piece of aircraft equipment still in production that’s older? The basic engines have been in production since 1954 in one form or another. This is one of those designs like the DC3 and barely a few others that just seem to go on and on forever
gary
I believe it is the oldest still in production.
How about the Beech Bonanza, no interuption since 1947, and the Cessna 172 since 1956, more than 43,000 served.
You’re right and I had an inkling even as I posted it. But I think the C-130 is the longest US Military aircraft in production. My friend Airman Jim was a scanner on C-124’s before he transitioned to C-130’s when he got out of the Tennessee ANG and into the USAF full time, or was it the other way around. He’s a Master Judge every year at Memphis in May. The man knows bbq.
Anyhow I’m really looking forward to seeing a Globemaster II soon.
That pic of that Little Bird inside the cargo compartment. Does anyone else think that compartment looks way too small to be a C-130 ? I say this becasue I just took about a dozen pics of the interior of a C-130J just a few days ago, & I’m a former U.S. Army helo mech, & know how small the OH/MH-6’s are. Could that be a C-160 Transall?
The guy I used to work for flew a couple Cessnas, and he told me several years back that they were getting out of the small private aircraft business (like the 172’s) due to liability factors. I didn’t know that they still build Bonanzas. Seldom ever see one anymore.
gary
Ishthe47guy,
Looks to be the interior of a C-130 alright. The box structure for the gear area is there and the personnel door is in the right place and you can see the “safety” straps going down at a 45 to the ramp as well as the aft portion in the raised position.
In the super FWIW department; in chasing that pic around the web, I found three sites not obvious lifts from one another that suggest two could fit in a C-130.
Ish, it looks like the interior of a 130 to me too. I have a few one way trips in those under my belt, and the interior never looked that roomy to me to beginn with. Add any sort of cargo and/or jumpers and it gets cramped in there real quick.
Three years as a 130 mech. That’s a 130.
Pardon my ignorance on the subject, but how would a Seahawk be unloaded from a C-130 meeting a ship at sea? Can a C-130 land on a carrier? Surely, they wouldn’t just push a $28M helicopter out the back on a pallet and hope that it lands on deck??!!!
Interesting project. The mind boggles at the possibilities of what you can put in there.
Your suggestion of parachutists sounds good, especially if the aircraft was suspended as if in flight and the jumpers are tumbling out off the ramp.
Sikorskies wouldn’t fit. A C-130 has landed on a carrier and taken off again, thanks to RATO. With another a/c inside, not likely.
I suppose the idea would be it takes the Hawk out to a remote island like Diego Garcia, and it gets unloaded and assembled, then flies off.
One thing, given the longetivity of the a/c, is the model Herk which gives a time frame. Like for my Entebbe Raider, I had to backdate her to a C.
Stick;
I never really knew much about the interior of a C130 as I had my eyes closed all the time leaving nice claw marks in the web seats!! Might have been better with a pair of those Bose noise cancelling headphones. Rather just walk; thank you!
gary
The idea was the C-130 takes the seahawk from a stateside base to someplace closer to where the ship is. I have since ditched that idea though.
But if you want to get picky. Yes, a C-130 has landed on a carrier. And it took off again too.
Gary, as soon as we got wheels up my helmet would usually go on top of my reserve and my eyes closed until it was time to get ready. The walks afterwards…
How about a 1/48 duece and a half with some cargo in it, ie. fuel barrels and crates?!