Frank, I think he was refering to the flaps. Flaps? And slats.
I’ve never heard that they were mechanically tied. The slats opened by themselves under certain conditions in flight. On the ground they could be pulled open by hand or shut.
Got some bench time tonight and actually put the decals on bird #1 the all 76 aircraft. The kit decals were a disaster so I raided the spares. Did my best to match what I needed and I think she is purdy. It was my least favourite scheme but seeing it taking shape has changed my mind. I will post some pics tomorrow.
Steve
Wow Aaron, it looks like your now a PE master. I saw those cheeky bits on the bottom of the LG. You sly old devil you. As for the wheels, geez, bin those beasts on the right they suck the large one.
As for the leading edge slats that you were on about, Frank was right. They were on rollers and needed to be pushed in before takeoff by the ground crew. They came out and in, in flight due to forces of flight on them to give the aircraft more lift. So on the ground you can pose them however you feel, in or out. As for the radiator flap. I think they were hydraulically operated so, if the machine was parked up, after a while they would droop. So once again, you can pose these however you want. Arnt 109’s easy LOL.
…Guy
Home again home again! Thanks fellows! Glad there is a lot of leeway in the control surfaces and radiators. It is just another reason the 109 is such a great aircraft to model. Limited only by your imagination!
Steve looking forward to the pics you got me curious to how it looks all painted and decaled!
Apparently those slates were added to decrease the stall characteristic of the short wing and give some lift. Amazing that they were on rollers? Wow pretty innovative, Can’t think of many allied aircraft that have things like that. I Know the Japanese used fowler flaps. Very curious as I know I have seen similar hydrolically operated slates on modern jet passenger aircraft to give lift at slower take off and landing speeds.
Oh yeah those ugly knobby wheels may not really be as far off as one may think. The Hasegawa ones definately have a more asthetically pleasing look but somewhere I have seen pics of 109G earlier types that had those chunky wheels. If I remember correctly it was an attempt to give a little traction to the tight scissor gear during the nast take off and landings that that gear arrangement could cause. I’ll keep my eye out for those pics. Ugly wheels may be accurate for some Aircraft.
Been reading up can you tell Frank?
Thunderolt, I did not realize that the 108 Taiftun had that slat arrangement as well. I will have to go check out that Edward kit again in the 48 hour GB that someone did a bang uo job on! Wonder who? [:-^]
Frank, the Owl decal set I picked up for the 110 also has a G-14 AS all in black, so I think I’ll be going with Hasa’s 1/48 G-10 with MDC’s G-6/14AS replacement engine and cockpit set.
Should provide something a little different, and now I’ve got my big new tamiya razor saw I feel the need to butcher some plastic!
Marc, great job on the budget 109! I keep looking at their 262 and wondering about a bare metal and putty finish, as I don’t feel like risking a Tamiya 262!
Aaron, the leading edge slat concept was invented by Handley Page in the UK. Many 109 pilots didn’t like the slats as they had a tendency to open individually in tight manoeuvers, throwing off the pitot’s aim, as one wing gained lift.
I can’t think of any other manufacturer who applied leading edge slats to fighters, though Messerschmitt did of course with the 110 & 262.
Karl
Awesome info Karl! Invented by England to throw off the 109’s pilots aim! Those English are quite clever! [:D]
I like that idea you have on your 109! Hack the plastic!!! Be different! Looking forward to seeing it take shape.
Oooh eeee. Its me again, the man with the light in his eyes.
Glad to see were all waking up after crimbo. Ive been busy spraying today. Got the top coat on the bird. Just a few touch ups here and there then its future time, then decals. Getting close.
The frisket film worked out pretty good. Ill deffo use it again.
…Guy
I’m looking forward to those pics Steve! Those single color scheme 109’s are quite intriguing. [tup]
Mac- Impressive stuff mate! You have really torn into this aircraft, and are making some very impressive headway. Looks like I’ll be asking you the 109 questions soon! [:-^]
Karl- I know the markings of which you speak- very cool scheme! Also good to hear we’ll have another G-14/AS here soon. Always good to see a variety of stuff. I updated page one for you! [tup]
Guy- Give those elvves some rest, will ya? You’re a modeling machine. Love that hard edged camo- very impressive stuff! [^]
Good progress Luftwoller. You’ll be in the air soon.
Got to comment on the pics. Either you have a block of krytonite lighting your bench or your white balance is off. Check that camera, it’s hard to pick out any color in your pics.
Guy great job with the frisket mask. End result is fantastic.
Frank, not so sure about soon, as I’m still sorting out the wings on the 110. Nothing on that kit seems to fit properly.
I’ll be placing my order with MDc for the resin shortly, so if nothing more I’ll be able to post some pics of that!
Aaron, I’m getting a taste for this sawing up kits, the new saw saw helps…
And yes those are the wings of my 1/48 110, which gives some idea as to the size of that saw![}:)]
Karl
Thnaks for all the comments guys.
Guy… I am doing Hartmann’s White 1. Ruddratt had a set to spare…Thanks again Mike. the kit has those marking but they aren’t very good. At least my set was out of register.
Tbolt is correct about the 108 wings being the basis for the 109 wing. The slats opened automatically and independently if that wing was about to stall.
Karl, you should get the 262. I almost picked that for the club GB. A couple of the gusy are doingthat kit and it looks really nice. A little TLC and these kits build up nice.
Marc, at this rate 2009 is going to be a Luftwaffe year! I think i built more IJA/N last year than anything else! Not sure where that urge came from.[%-)]
I’ve got loads of spare decals for 262s, as well as a spares box full of Dragon/Tamiya 262 spares, so I may well pick up that 262 as an antodote to the 110 and the 109.
Guy, great looking progress on that K.
Back to rescribing the 110.
Karl
No worries Karl! I’ll be here building for some time yet. I am not a very fast builder. [V] Looking forward to some pics! [:D]
Aaron- We had a lengthy discussion on this topic last year. The forward slats were actually Handley-Page automatic slats. They were held in place by airflow against the wing, when the angle of attack changed they would deploy to provide more lift to the wing. According to 275 victory Experten Gunther Rall, they were usually pushed in (closed) when the plane was on the ground to prevent foreign matter from fouling them. Most photographs of 109’s on the ground show them closed so you’re certainly safe leaving them that way.
Mike
Guy- Beautiful work on the paint!
Marc- Looking good, glad to see you got started!
I finally have some more WIP pics! Finished most of the cockpit, just have to get the fuse halves together so I can finish up the deck.
Left cockpit side- Does anyone know the actual color of the throttle knob? I have seen restored aircraft with yellow, white, yellow stripe, red, and any other color you can imagine. I left mine RLM66 for now as I have seen that combo too.
Right cockpit side- Re-did the lwer front portion of the fuel line, added a section of clear sprue for the sight glass, and oxygen hose from coiled solder.
IP- added some glass lenses for the guages.
Cockpit floor- Finished up the seatbelts and installed the lap belts. Belts made from lead foil, PE buckles from Eduard. Can also see the rudder pedal straps here. Added a few wires on the lower right side.
Frank, that pit is looking sharp.
Haven’t a clue what colour the throttle knob ought to be, as like you, I have seen it in a variety of colours.
Karl
Hi Frank, wow, my friend, Thats some awesome work there for sure. How did you do the IP its awesome. Its the kit panel but the dials and the lens’s are amazing. How?
As for the throttle lever, heres a pic of an unrestored late G model. I know it doesnt help much LOL.
but more common is the lever being yellow with what looks like a black end to it. Ill see if i can dig up any more stuff.
Mines now got the fuz mottles on and is futured. Next up decals but ill give the future time to go off properly.
…Guy
Heres another goodun of a late G,
Heres another Late G, this time it appears the throttle lever is all Grey, mmmm, strange,
Perhaps the pic aboves throttle lever is similar to this one, An E
Nothing but minefields these bleeding 109’s.
…Guy