Badger 155 - Iwata CR - Passche VL

Hello to all here at the FineScale Forum, thanks for all the great info. [:D]
OK right to it , as a newbie to the AB I need to Order a Brush here so before I did I thought that I would just go ahead and ask for a little help as it is Late [|)] and I have read too many posts tonight [:)]
Right now I think my plan is to get a Solid mid range bottom Feed brush from Passche or Badger, (Then if I get into Airbrushing more invest in a nicer/more percise Gravity Feed like an Iwata, beacsue newbie I just don’t know if I will spend the $$$ for an Iwata Yet)

I would be using the Brush for Mostly post WWII AirCraft and a little Armor / WWII mixed in.
[?] - The Question -
Passche VL (VLS)
or
Badger 155
I was just about Sold on the Passche then I found this forum and the 155 started showing up in lots of threads

Lastly I think I have decided to give the 20 lbs. CO2 Tank a shot for the air supply. For 2 reasons (1) Quiet (2) I can get my hands on a tank and a regulator for little or 0 (family help :wink:

Thanks for all your input it ia appreciated.

If you goal is to own an Iwata go for it now unless you don’t mind paying twice.

Haven’t used either of those two A/B so I can’t mak a comment on them.

I would take the Badger 155 in a second over the Paasche VL.
The 155 has a smoother trigger, is more comfortable, and disassembles faster. There are others who would choose the VL as it is an old standard for airbrushes. The choice is yours. [;)]

Mike

Good Point (Model Museum)
However there some what of a price gap between say a VL and an Iwata HP-CS

Well perhaps a better way of deciding to spend the extra money is to ask …
Are Gravity Brushed Better of Modeling in general ?

See that is another barier is I have not really been able to get some good real use info about Gravity vs. bottom feed

It is really personal preference, for my modelling needs gravity feed cups are large enough as I don’t need a lot of paint.

I would just go with a gravity-feed airbrush now.
Any reason why you want the Iwata?
You can buy a Badger 100LG or Omni 4000 for quite a bit less than the HP-CS and have an airbrush that is just as good.

Mike

Another Reason I would not mind getting a Badger or a Passche is the old
Micheals 40% Coupon [:D] I found after reading about it in this Forum. What about the Badger 360? Or Passche VSR 90 / VJR ? has you used any of those?

The 360 is an excellent airbrush but the cup is small in gravity-feed mode.
Internally it is identical to the Anthem 155.

Mike

I have the VJR you asked about (2 messages previously). I like it a whole lot for touch up jobs. It has a tiny cup where there’s almost nothing to clean up. Its cup is too small to be your one & only airbrush though. I use the VJR alongside an Omni 5000. The 5000’s cup is smaller than the 4000, but it’s big enough.

155 all the way.

though i also suggest 100lg with medium n/n

i got my 155 60% off for a tjanksgiving sale! that’s right 60% off! It actually beat the dixieart price bya few dollars! anyway i’d go for (and have done so) the 155 like a shot. (After purchasing this AB going to an Iwata is quite unnecesary in my opinion. It would not be an upgrade anyway![;)])

I think it’s time for the Badger Mafia to orginize a hit on the iwata gang.

Be careful we got the backing of the Tamiya, Olympus, etc gangs too.
Go ahead and take on the BB Rich clan. [:D]

consider it done

hehe. we’ll spray 'em with our fine pencil lines!!

hey Chef, I just looked on dixieart.com and the badger 155 and the VL sets are the same price! 59.95… I’ve ordered from them before and they are a real square deal! the stuff I ordered got here in like 3 or 4 days… AND with purchases over 45.00 there is free shipping!!! what a bargain!

Out of the two I would recommend the Badger 155… with it you will get very lines closer to what a gravity feed will do with the good medium coverage capabilities of that 2 oz bottle…

However I must agree with MM… if you want an Iwata, get an Iwata… don’t get this one and then pay twice by getting the Iwata later… (been there, done that) the Iwata HP-CR is… you guessed it, 59.95 at dixie art… the hose is extra in this case but only 11.00 or so… price isn’t an issue as we see… it’s more about what ya want…

hair thin lines with an Iwata, ease of gravity feed cleanup…

with the 155 almost as fine detail, fastest break apart of any airbrush this side of Tupelo, Mississippi… (the 360 is identical to the 155 except it also has a cup so it can do gravity feed airbrushing… only draw back is the cup is small so only good for detail work)

the VL is a good brush, haven’t used it but heard it is comparable to the Badger 175 which is goo, but not as good at detail as the 155…

they’re all the same price so this either makes it easier or harder on ya haha

The 155 is a nice all around airbrush. The Badger 100LG with med head assembly or a Omni 5000, Iwata-HP-CS are other good choices for modeling. I even like using the Badger 150. The Peak x-5 from bear air is a good choice too.
John

Wow thanks for all the feedback

Another question - any used the Revolution series Iwata?

I haven’t several here have, in fact the legendary Saltydog himself either has it or is planning on getting one… it’s comparable to the Omni 4000. I might be getting one this week… the missus is out of town so need to get the purchase approved through her first…

Tho, the revoution doesn’t compare to the omni 4k. It’s not quite as good, but still a good airbrush.

Ps to Badger Mafia: All “inbetweeners” (Tho9900) will also be hit.