ARMOR - Pz IV Group Build

So some of us discussed a Pz IV group build a little while ago. First let me say that I really want to make this a lax build with few or no real rules, except have fun!! However, some guidelines are as follows:

The Group Build Guidelines:

  • If we do get a group going, I would like to try to keep the discussion limited to the actual Pz IV as much as possible. At the same time though, I would love to see any progress pics of Pz IVs, or variants that you guys might be building. I also would be more than happy to answer any questions about variants that I could.

  • As far as Pz IVs for other group builds, I see no problem with building them across both threads, but I guess that is more up to the other GBs. In any case I would love to help you guys out with any questions, or discussions you might have. Of course you will have to post as many pics as possible though.

  • As far as a timeline, this will be a very unofficial start date, but how does June 15th sound? Feel free to start anytime, but for those of you who want to try to start together, how about the 15th? Let me know if you guys would like to make the very unofficial start date later… I will be busy for a very long time with my Pz IV builds and I see no need for an official end date.

  • Concerning kits that have already been started, I welcome them. If I don’t go insane, I will probably be working on my Pz’s for quite some time so I don’t see the need for a strict timeline. As far as already completed models, I would love to see any pics you guys have. It will be great for ideas, references and to get the discussion going strong.

  • I would love to get any references you guys have on the Pz IV, whether online, or printed, please let me know. If we get a group going, I will try to get a web page up with as much info as I can find.

  • Please, I would love to hear everyone’s comments or ideas on the GB guidelines.

Here are the participants as I understand:
petbat
wipw
frosty
feldgrau
Foster
renarts
tigerman
wildwilliam?
RAF
rolgan
Kennethc
j.s.harrison
gkicsak
rebelreenactor
ddayomaha
myself

Please let me know if you want to be added to or taken off the list.

Here is the group patch:

is it a any ausf? I might, might, maybe, be able to join. I’ll see if i can do some extra chores for money.

yes, any Pz IV tank, but I was thinking we would try to stay away from variants.

Sounds great to me, edog!

As I’ve mentioned I technically jumped the gun and have already started my PzKpfw IV Ausf G “Kursk” from Dragon (#9020). However, I’ll refrain from posting pictures or dissussing the build until after everyone officially starts. That way, it will appear as though it’s happening at the same time. Beside, since I’ve just started working on the indi tracks, by the time I’m finished with them, everyone else might well be at about the same point I am.

Looking forward to this build,

Sounds good to me, Sir Erik. I’m still debating about those PE mesh screens for my J. I’m really leaning toward them. They look FANTASTIC!

Thanks for spearheading this!

Fortunately the end date is very liberal. I might work on mine when I need a break fom my Marder. Oh, all those bloody wheels to paint. That’s worse than an ad-lib camo job.

edog,
gee, does that mean i could weasel in w/ my IV-D that i
started last September and then put aside
for a Komet that is not done, amd my Panther (finished),
and the T34/85 (finished), and a P-47(finished) ,
and a Pak 40 (in progress), and a Quad and 25 pounder (in progress)?

i am currently ‘not allowed’ to start any new kits until i finish the ones already in progress.
which is too bad as i have a few kits that would qualify.
but this build could get me back on the IV-D w/o violating the terms of my parole. [:D]

i believe it needs the tracks, crew, final wash & weather.
not enough to earn a badge, but can i play anyway? [:)]

I would be down for this. Sounds like it would be a good learning experiance for a newb like me.

D[censored]it! Not another one I want to join… [:(!] I’ll have to wait and see but put me down as a probably… Hmmm… I’ll have to do a little kit bashing to get a proper build but…(wheels squeeking along…) I’ll let you know

Peace Ya’ll

Edog you can put me down as a maybe and that’s definte!
It really comes down to when I get a kit and then I’ll drop in and make it official but untill then I’ll be following a long. I’ll probable jump in with a question or two, who know I might even come up with an answer to one.

wildwilliam, I don’t see any reason that you would not be able to join the build with your already started Pz IV D. AND when you are off parole and if you still want to build with us, you should hop in with those other kits too!!

RAF, Kennethc, RedButcher, rolgan good to see some more interested faces around here. I cant wait to get started.

Alright i’m still new to WWII so this is probably a stupid question but…

Is a Panzerkampfwagen IV a panzer? or is it something else???

Panzer = Tank
Panzerkampfwagen IV = Tank version 4… basically

So the answer to your question is Yes.

Panzer IV
Panzerkampfwagen IV
Pzkpfw IV
Pz IV

Their all the same rig…

Cheers… .oh and there’s no such thing as a stupid question…only stupid answers…[:D]

If we are going to get down to symantics:
'Their 'should be ‘They are’ or 'They’re"
So I guess there are also stupid comments as well, from clowns like me, [:p][:p][:D][:D][:o)][:o)][:o)]

I’m in as I said previously. Hope to finish the small AFV and Towed Gun builds in the next two weeks. After all the extra detail I added for the Panther, Sherman, SAFV and TG builds, the Panzer IV will be basically OOB from the Ancient Tamiya offering - will be good for you guys to laugh at!

Peter

Don’t make me get up out of this chair…[B)] You wouldn’t like me out of this chair…
[:D]

Besides I was raised in South Arkansas… gimme a break man…[:p]

Well I guess this thread just answered my ??. I m in with a FlakpanzerIV Kugelblitz or the Pnz. IV f2.

Say I need to buy my kit. I have already built a Tamiya Panzer IV so Maybe I should try a different company like Academy or drangon any suggestions.

I’d like in if possible. I’ll be building 6-8 Pz IVs(1/72) in the next two weeks as my German Army is expanding. So I’m game.

~Cory

RedButcher, stay away from Academy. They are reboxed old Tamiya kits. The Italeri kits are old, but still well detailed. As usual thought the Italeri kit will be a bit fussy to build and the tracks stink. The Dragon Pz IVs seem to be quite well detailed, but they are also a bit of a fussy build.

Rolgan, that is quite a few kits. Do you plan to build them all out of the box, or are you going to add after market kits? I hope you keep us up to date with lots of pictures.

For those interested, Ian Allan Publishing’s book by Jonathan Forty “Tanks in Detail #1
PzKpfwIV Ausf A to J” is a pretty good resource. Nice overview of development and some great detail pics. The last few pages have vehicle markings, tactical symbols and unit markings. Worth the $.