I have been working with my new brush for a while, recently I got an adaptor for model masters bottles, and its working great, im using it alot. I went to use it a few min ago, and it isnt working, air is coming out, but no paint, I checked the needle, its clean, I checked the tube going from the bottle to the AB its clean and clear, I cant even get thinner to go through it now…
vent hole plugged? nozzle clean?
it didnt have instructions on how to clean any of that
what is the brand of your airbrush.
is there any paint on the needle? if there is, than look at the nozzle because it is most likely plugged, if there is no paint on the needle and it is siphon fed, reason says there might be a clog in the siphon or a piece of paint plugging the bottom of the siphon just some of my thoughts. most likely though it is the nozzle
if you could tell me what brand it is i can hopefully tell you how to clean it.
i assume it was enamel paint?
i had a very similar problem with a generic brand of airbrush once, holding brand, i think. something didn’t work right, i assume it was the nozzle. many a night i would try to clean the nozzle, and each time i would come up from the basement, cursing. so i went out and found a great deal on a badger 360; that badger has yet to plug. i am very happy
I have a badger 200. The problem is from the jar to the tip. The needle is fine, the nozzel is clean. I am just not getting anything pulled up from the jar. When I used canned air I would turn the pressure up high and put a piece of paper covering the tip and pres the trigger, itd make the jar bubble and then itd work fine. But for some reason with my compressor It is not doing that…
I cant even get it to spray thinner.
As far as clogs there isnt a single point on there that ?I can see with a clog it wont even spray thinner
It sounds like you’re not getting sufficient airflow. The B200 needs a minimum of about 18 PSI to draw paint from the jar.
Check your air line connections for leakage. From your other posts it appears you have a compressor with an auto cut-off. This means that it should stop running when you release the button on the airbrush. However, if it is running continuously, this would suggest an air leakage as there won’t be enough back-pressure to switch it off.
What I am worrying about, is that the hose that came with my AB is big enough to screw ON to the thingy, the thing your suposto screw it on, it fits in… I guess its to much to ask for badger to sell something that you know, is compatable to it’s other stuff.
At a guess, I’m thinking you just have the propel can adaptor. This is the plastic connector which screws onto the “air can”, to which your air hose connects. It is not possible to use this as a connector to your compressor.
If you don’t have a 1/4" adaptor for your Badger air hose, then this is what you need. http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/bad/bad50-023.htm (note that this link is just for illustration purposes) These adaptors come in two types - (1) standard and (2) with bleeder hole. You don’t want the one with the bleeder hole. You should be able to pick one up at just about any hobby store.
I got shit near me for hobby shops. I went and got the Badger Adatpter from Micro Mark. Just looking at the picture its what I need. At this point I just want something to get the damned thing working
If you stop and think about it, there are two places where the source of paint between the bottle and the airbrush can be blocked. The siphon tube itself and the vent hole in the cap. Like Gerald mentioned, there should be a small hole in the cap near where the siphon tube exits - quick way to check it is to simply hold the cap up to a light and check to see if the hole is open (paint will often stay in there even if you clean the cap). If light isn’t showing, turn the lid over and locate the hole (should be very near the tube or the washer around the tube). When you locate it, take a pin and carefully punch the dried paint out, finish by wiping the area down w/a thinner dampened rag (I now check the hole every time I clean the lid)
A plugged siphon tube is somewhat rarer but not unknown (usually when you do something stupid and leave the cap on a bottle which still has paint in it for a day or two). In this case I find that soaking the entire cap for a day or two in thinner (since I use enamels, lacquer thinner is my cleaning liquid of choice) to soften/remove the hardened paint, followed by an interior scrubbing of the siphon tube with a pipe cleaner soaked in thinner. Just keep cleaning until no evidence of paint shows on the pipe cleaner (you’ll use two or three pipe cleaners). You should be able to find pipe cleaners in your local drugstore (I’ve also been able to find them in a gun shop)
A word about safety - when I clean my airbrushs and their accessories, I do it in my paint booth, wearing a respirator and rubber gloves. And be careful
the cap is quite clean, I make sure of that. The hole is always open and so is the tube itself.
Is your compressor giving you the same level of pressure as the air can turned up high? It is best to tell by the pressure gauges. If you don’t use a gauge, just spray plain air onto your other free hand for comparison. If the compressor air stream is weaker, turn up your pressure regulator on the compressor. If you don’t us a regulator or it is already at the highest position, then, your compressor is too weak for your AB. Try a better compressor such as the Paasche DA400SR.
Cheaper AB tends to need more pressure than high quality, gravity feed AB. The Iwata HP-CS or the Badger 100LG will both be good choices for you.
It gives enough pressure to shoot whatever im aiming it at accross the painting surface (which the canned air did) There IS a leak, so I ordered an adapter for the little tiny hose I have, if it doesnt work, your gona see me on the news after I go on a homisidal rampage at badger headquaters
Before you do, may I suggest a Badger airhose.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LX8200&P=FR
You can also get this airhose from Michaels Hobby Shop if you have one nearby. Using the 50% off coupon in the Sunday paper, it is quite a good deal compared to what may happen after your rampage.
Do you have an air leak at the connection point of your hose and your airbrush? I recently bought a Badger Renegade Velocity AB. I found that when I attached the Iwata quick disconnect that there was an air leak. It was easily fixed with some teflon tape. Now, no air leak and a brush that sprays very well
I have one of those air hoses that are ment for connecting to their air can connector, so its tiny tiny. It fits INSIDE compressor adaptor, so thats what I did, and it leaks alot there, like enough I can hear and feel it.
Did you get the adaptor that Phil_H suggested?
The tiny plastic hose should work just fine with the adaptor above, which screws onto the adaptor. I am completely puzzled by your description that “It fits INSIDE compressor adaptor”!! Show us how you fix it with a picture if you need more help.
Dixie Art carries a comprehensive list of airhoses and adaptors from all major manufacturers. Check this page to make sure that you are using the correct connection before you blame Badger.
I bought this adaptor http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=81768 probably the same one.
as far as ‘fitting inside’ well, heres a pictoral diogram
this may seem like a dumb question but, i must get it out of my head…
are there threads on the outside of the adaptor because it looks to me like it does.
also does your hose have threading on the outside too? i had a hose just like that, and it had an adaptor similar to that one up above, it would appear that it does not, but simply bumps
i had a hose very similar to this, for my holding AB
although that has already been discussed,
i think you may indeed have the wrong adaptor.
Smeagol,
The adapter you show is a male to mail connector, not an adapter per se. It’s required as almost every airhose only have female ends. You need the adapter Phil_H recommended and Keilau pictured. Had I known I could have sent my spare one to you with the DVD on airbrushing (did you get that yet?).
The way you have it hooked up will not work as there aren’t threads holding it in place. You should be able to buy that adapter at most hardware stores (Home Despot), department stores (Wally World) or junk merchandiser (Harbor Freak). It will be $3-5. Get a roll of teflon tape from the plumbing supply aisle (about a $1) and wrap it around the threads of the male to male connecter (both ends!) and you should be good to go.