I started another thread about overpriced manufacturers. I thought i would post this thread showing “whats in the box” of various kits.
Here’s my first post, I hope it’s of some use.
P-38 Lightning 1/48 Revell 1973 release.
Did you mix up the links?
That was too a review of the 1/48 Monogram lightning.
Yep, I mixed the links. [:$]
I’ll just adjust the above thread.
Thanks.
Thanks for the video - brought back some great memories.
This was one of the first kits I ever built. Odd that the kit I had back in the late '70s was exactly the same. My uncle who served with the US Navy in the Pacific during the Second World War helped me with it. Really impressed me as a kid him telling me about seeing P-38s flying around for real.
I’ve been working on one of the Hasegawa kits, but dang the Monogram one is still a winner.
Thanks again!
I started a thread a week or so ago about over priced kits. The thread got a lot of activity, so I decided to start a small series of videos showing what you get in the box. I hope this helps others buy wisley and see that there are alternatives to buying that $80.00 kit when you can grab a gloden oldie for $20.00 or so.
What I generally take away from those “discussions” and the opinions expressed by those who generally “poo-poo” kits like these is that the classics require too many actaul modeling skills, which the Shake & Bakes do not… With the S&B kits, one can just throw a tube of Testor’s in the box, shake it, and out pops a built model… Understand, this what I hear… I wouldn’t know first-hand, since I’ve never paid over 30.00 for an aircraft kit… Won’t, either…[:P]
About the video…
Although the subject matter is outstanding, and your motivation is excellent, you probably should do a couple things for future projects…
Use a script. You “ummed” and “ahhed” a bit, and mumbled as if you were searching for words, and didn’t really sound confident that you knew your subject… Don’t improv.
Put the backdrop back on the bed and buy some colored (lght blue works nice) poster board…
Get a bigger table.
Get a tripod and sit behind the model as you show it, rather than letting “Mr Hand” do the talking, lol…
Also, the kit you show isn’t from '66… It’s the early 70’s release… (Monogram used paintings of the aircraft in the 60s, didn’t start using photos of the actual models on the box until '73.)
The P-38 was first released in '64, with the second boxing coming out in '66… Here’s the 1964 box:
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And 1966:
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You also stated that you didn’t know why Monogram had the black plastic parts… Simple… Back then, models were molded “In Color” so young folks who couldn’t paint yet could still build a “colorful” model… (I was one of those young folks, lol… Didn’t get to paint until I was 10, and I started building at age 7…)[;)]
That’s just a few things I can thnk of… Keep in mind that this is just some tips or pointers I’m giving you, and not to be construed as me trying to discourage you… Rather, it’s quite the opposite…
Oh… One more thing… If you’re going to keep posting these here, you might wanna check with Aaron or Matt first and get an ok… Since you offer the kits for sale in the videos, it could be construed that you’re advertising, and that your videos are really just commercials, and that’s frowned upon here…
Yup, that’s the kit! I’m with you on this one Hammer. Over the last 10+ years I’ve built mostly Hasegawa, some Tamiya and Italeri. Hadn’t touched a revellogram since my “early period” because I remembered them as having fit or finish issues… well DUHHHH, turns out it was me that had the fit & finish issues!!! [:$] Over the past two years I have received ( I kid you not ) four of these from well-meaning family members, despite my allergies to silver paint & US aircraft! I started a GB with P38 just to force myself to build at least one of them. I find my self shocked… that it actually fits pretty well. Needs some flash cleaned up and there are some ejector pin marks, but it’s actually a pretty good structure to deal with and has a decent level of detail. And in this particular case, the ol’ P-38 is really underserved as far as kits go.
Hmmmmmm so I guess that’s why my kit had the same box top, decals, etc. Probably either the same pressing or the next one after it. If I remember it was back somewhere around 1978 and cost about six bucks at K-Mart!
Thanks von Hammer.
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Hammer thanks for the tips, but keep in mind these are not meant to be professional videos, the camera is on a tripod but the mood is meant to be “garage made”, this is not a slick hollywood production, just a guy in his spare room showing “what’s in the box”. We could talk about lighting a professional camera, ect. ect. but that isnt the point of the videos. As far as the year of the kit, the box and instructions are dated 1966, but upon further review of the kit I did find the 1973 repop date. Thank you for the “heads up”. I have corrected the date in my post here and at youtube.
Knowing the subject? I can only go by the info on hand and offer the release date given; such as dating the printing of a book. I am not nor do I ever claim to be a proffesional, this is a youtube video.
I have not posted the videos to this site, I have just posted the link, so I hope this is not a problem on the forum,( I am not offering anything for sale directly on this site) nor is my P-38 for sale. We are allowed to post links in our sigs, so I really dont see the problem.
Yeah, I think you’re probably fine with the non-commercial thing. I find it interesting to see what are in those magical boxes! I think some folks may be surprised by what they can do with one of the older kits.
This brings a question to mind. I’ll start another thread for it…
I’ve had some experience recently with both the Academy and Revellogram P-38s, and honestly, in my opinion, the Revellogram is the better kit. It was probably very well crafted and state-of-the-art for its time, and the Academy kit seems like it just “borrowed” the basic assembly setup. The cockpits are virtually identical. The Academy has boxed-in gear bays, but whoopee, they’re so lacking in detail that anybody with a sheet of Evergreen could do just as good a job. And I think the Revellogram’s one-piece stabilizer goes a long way toward addressing the alignment problems that plague the Academy. The Revellogram’s canopy is better, too.
I’ve still got that Revellogram sitting half-finished in the stash. May have to pull it out again before the P-38 GB runs its course…
I wasn’t trying to sound like you needed to go “pro” SC… You just picked a subject near & dear to me (Classic Monogram and Revell kits) and I just gave you some info you didn’t have… I also offered up some “polishing” tips for the vid… As with all tips, they’re “take 'em or leave 'em” and only as useful as you think they are to your project…
As for the “commercial” remark, it too was just a tip in case you wanted to CYA… Just in case your post “disappeared”… I’ve seen it happen…
Hammer, I appreciate your advice, thanks for taking the time to look at the video and post your thoughts. I really appreciated the heads up on the year of the kit. It was an oversite on my part, but you helped to correct the error.
I have one of those oldies in my closet somewhere, along with a 1/32 version. Unfortunately the small fit issues in the 1/48 kit were amplified in the 1/32 kit. On the other hand, it gives me something to do for just that much longer.
The old kits are great. I think a lot of the new kits are a bit overrated and somewhat overpriced, but that’s just my opinion. I’m an old timer like Hans. That kit he showed was born the same year I was in 64. I have been building since summer 68, and I have seen kits come and go, but the Revell and Monogram kits are never out of style and are always there. That shows how beloved they are. Someday I suppose they will have to retool big time to catch up with those who have to have everything already done for them, so they just have to, Hans put it, “stick a tube of glue in the box and shake.” I just hope when that day finally arrives, that they continue to offer the simple kits that we have all enjoyed for so many years.
Could we once, just once, have a love-fest for the old Revellogram kits without, with the other hand, deriding newer kits? Or tossing bombs about how expensive they are, or how anybody who builds them wants it all done for them?
I like the old Monogram P-47. I also like the newer Tamiya P-47. Both have their pros and cons. Big deal. I’ve built both and will continue to build both in the future.
We’re all in this hobby for the enjoyment of it, we all have our preferences, and denigrating one “class” of model or another gets tiresome.
This thread is in response to a previous thread I started about overpriced kits. There was a lot of activity their so I decided to show whats in the box of various kits. I agree that this is a hobby we should all be able to enjoy but some of us are being PRICED right out of the hobby and considering what you get in many of the newer high priced kits I felt it was time to show exactly what we spend our money on.
This is meant to be educational and informative and help others decide what they want to spend their money on. Nothing more, nothing less.
By all means, buy and build what you want.
I agree with being priced right out of the hobby. If they ever run out of old builder kits or bagged kits on eBay, that’s it for me. LOL…
Rich
That’s what the forum is, a discussion forum.